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  1. #181
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    I'm trying to get the SL120 out of it's box.

    Jeez!..... anyone got a crane I can borrow?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shian7 View Post
    Marco,

    I've taken your advice and ordered a 33PTG direct from Japan. It's currently in Lithuania (?!?) according to the 'tracker'.

    If it's crap, it's all your fault and I will be popping round to insert a large garden gnome into you! (guess where I nicked that phrase from?).



    Cheers,
    Mike.
    Hmmm..... So much for the tracking information!

    It is allegedly still in Lithuania. I say 'allegedly' because it's about a foot away from me as I type!

    I'd best get my finger out with this phono stage, although I'm still waiting for the MC traffo's to show up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shian7 View Post
    Hmmm..... So much for the tracking information!

    It is allegedly still in Lithuania. I say 'allegedly' because it's about a foot away from me as I type!
    Still, that's better than having the tracking information say it's with you when it's really in Lithuania.
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    Damn right sir!!!


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    Oh, there is another slight problem.

    Being a 'Japan only' model the documentation is (of course) all in Japanese!

    I haven't got a clue what sort of loading this thing likes!

    It does, however, come with a few useful little extras, such as long and short mounting screws, a nice cleaning brush, screwdriver, and last but not least, a set of PCOCC headshell leads. Which is nice.

    Cheers,
    Mike.
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    and last but not least, a set of PCOCC headshell leads.
    Which are detachable and therefore bugger all use in your Hadcock

    Never mind you can send them to me

    The following should be of use regarding your AT33PTG:

    Specifications:

    Type: MC type
    Playback frequency range: 15 - 50,000Hz
    Output voltage: 0.5mV (1kHz and 5cm/sec.
    Channel separation: 30dB (1kHz)
    Output balance: 0.5dB (1kHz)
    Stylus pressure: 1.6 - 2.0g (1.8g standard)
    Coil impedance: 17 Ohms (1kHz)
    Direct current resistance: 17 Ohms
    Load resistance: 20 Ohms or more
    Coil inductance: 70 mu H (1kHz)
    Static compliance: 40×±0 - 6 cm/dyne
    Dynamic compliance : 10×±0 - 6 cm/dyne (100Hz)
    Needle tip form: Micro linear (ML)
    Vertical tracking angle: 23?
    External size: L26.5 × W 16.6 × H16mm
    Mass (cartridge): 6.8g
    I would go for 100ohms (the norm) and optimise it if necessary from there

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Thanks Marco,

    I'd already unearthed that info though

    20 ohms or more is a bit of use, but not that much!


    Quite right about the headshell leads with the Haddock, but they'll come in handy sooner or later.
    Shian7
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    kudakutemo

    ari mizu-no tsuki

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    broken again - still it's there:
    the moon on the water.

    - Choshu.

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    No worries, mate. Like I said, go for 100ohms, which is 'standard' for an MC and tweak it from there. Flexibility is one of the benefits of going the D.I.Y route

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Just got one of these on ebay - damn cheap.

    http://www.vinylengine.com/library/pioneer/pl-71.shtml link to brochure.

    Sad but I remember this beast early 70's. I lusted after one then but couldn't afford it, made do with a PL12AC (much better built than the PL12D). Top of the range of Pioneer t/t, considered by many the best technical expression of the DD until the 1980's Trio LC07D.

    Beautifull construction and nearly twice as heavy as the Technics - steel base with real walnut top.

    So now I have a 1210 and collecting this beast next week, though the 1210 is out on loan, so which one gets the work done on it is up for votes. But for looks this Pioneer is so beautifull and is built like a tank and beats the 1210 on that basis.

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    Looks great, Richard. Nice find

    I (and I'm sure a few others) look forward to reading about your forthcoming escapades with it.

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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