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    like most things we are allowed our opinions. But even an educated mind needs to try to be sure. dont think my system would show any improvement to me tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    at least he is trying one to see. then he can voice a qualified opinion. you never know, although im inclined to think it would increase noise,there is really only one way to find out for sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeMusic View Post
    Since my RTZ grounding box has been here I have seen no aliens so it must keep them away as well
    My father in law had a rowen tree in his garden. Said it kept witches away. It worked - we never saw one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dave2010 View Post
    Seriously? Wouldn't a wire immersed in a jar of snake oil grounded to the water mains do just as well?
    No, that’s nothing like the ground box, because it’s actually attached to ground, and may actually work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphaGT View Post
    No, that’s nothing like the ground box, because it’s actually attached to ground, and may actually work!

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    Possibly nearly as well as an uninterrupted length of plain wire to earth.
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    For those who wish to try a grounding box or have recently placed one in their system...

    My ears told me the sound quality has consistently improved since the RTZ came in.
    Over days and weeks.

    Very pleasant surprise

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    If the people who are reporting improvements with this aren't simply wind-up merchants, it is just possible that there is an effect, though as I'd guess completely uncontrolled - with maybe random noise injection - very difficult to be sure, or repeatable.

    Subjective impressions are also very difficult to assess scientifically.

    Some more reliable assessment could be done by feeding in known levels of low level noise. Years ago I experimented with injecting low levels of digital noise into audio. If the noise is at a low enough level it is all but inaudible. One effect, which seemed real to me was that it appeared to reduce the volume level. This is just about plausible if one considers that maybe our ears+hearing relate sounds to a threshold level. This is only speculative however. If the noise threshold is raised - but otherwise seemingly inaudible - then the perceived dynamic range could be lower. Whether this is a good thing or not - who can say? It may also be that there is some apparent smoothing of the sounds reproduced.

    It could of course all just be a box of ... well somebody upthread mentioned it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobbieGong View Post
    Bet the 'hum' was unbearable though
    Maybe not, but there was probably a lot of buzzing!
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    Since joining this thread I started reading from the top down. Yesterday I was watching a film, and reading this. Cracked me up after a few pages. Very entertaining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeMusic View Post
    For those who wish to try a grounding box or have recently placed one in their system...

    My ears told me the sound quality has consistently improved since the RTZ came in.
    Over days and weeks.

    Very pleasant surprise

    Happy bunny
    I don't understand why you were surprised as you've tried a lot of <debatable> tweaks in your system (mains cables, special fuses, special stands, cones, weights etc) and you always report an improvement. Didn't you also find that putting granite place mats on top of the RTZ and 'black ravioli' feet under it improved the sound?


    Sorry but I don't really buy your line that you were sceptical about this device to begin with and were amazed that it had an effect.
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