Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
All I was looking for, Alex, from Dave was something along the lines of:

'Hi guys, I've been playing with the new platter today and have discovered X, Y, Z, which clearly shows to me that the new platter doesn't in any way negatively impact on the speed stabilty of the drive system, so worry not! Oh, and it sounds fantastic and makes a significant improvement to the performance of the SL-1200...'

Had he done something that, instead of creating a shroud of silence on the matter, I can assure you that we wouldn't be in this unfortunate position now!

All others and I would like is some form of reassurance of the concerns we've raised here. Instead we get indignant silence and a rather arrogant and dismissive air of' I don't have to justify my products to anyone' from Dave, which I'm sorry, I find completely unacceptable.

I can also ASSURE you that his attitude in this matter is not in any way reflecting well on him, despite him putting a favourable spin on it. I've had discussions in private with numerous people and they are all telling me that he's doing himself no favours whatsoever. However, if he wants to put his ego ahead of his best business interests, then of course that's entirely his decision!

I do however fully understand that things are still under development with the platter, so I'm not looking for definitive answers at this stage; merely some basic feedback as to what he has learned. Surely to God that's not too much to ask???
Marco,

Thank you for a detailed answer, however for me it is easy to understand Dave's position in this case not because I am his friend and partner but because I am an engineer and not less a measurement fun than Dave. For me, as it is for Dave, measurements are a very serious thing and only make sense if done properly. What you asking for does look simple and easy only for you or for somebody who would not understand all nuances involved. It is not a question of a "definitive" answer, it is a question of an honest one. Dave (same as me) would not attempt to "measure" something just to keep customers happy. There are plenty of "measurements" like this in hi-fi industry - those have very little to do with the real performance. In this particular case of a new platter it is a complex question of what to measure and how - to address the real changes that would affect the performance. Most moments discussed in this thread are off target in this respect. Questions of the motor performance and speed stability with new platter just do not make any sense whatsoever unless you look at these in very fine details. All you can really ask from Mike and Dave: "is the platter safe to use on the Technics motor with Mike's bearing?" - and to answer that you don't need measurement details from Dave, as I would guarantee that Dave would not put on sale a potentially unreliable product. The rest is up to a subjective listening at the moment.

Cheers

Alex