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  1. #731
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    Quote Originally Posted by istari_knight View Post
    No worries

    The spec sheet of a truly British amp would simply read 'adequate'
    Ha ha, like this website description of my British power amp:

    "PA2M SE (twin mono in one case).

    It has a very fine mid range and top end with the deepest, most powerful and tight bass end I know how to produce – short of the Anniversary models. This is two entirely separate mono power amps in one case."

    ...and that's it. No indication of THD, damping factor etc.
    Mana Acoustics Racks / Bright Star IsoNodes Decoupling >> Allo DigiOne Player >> Pedja Rogic's Audial Model S DAC + Pioneer PL-71 turntable / Vista Audio phono-1 mk II / Denon PCL-5 headshell / Reson Reca >> LFD DLS >> LFD PA2M (SE) >> Royd RR3s.

  2. #732
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    It's finally arrived, and just warming through...

    Richard.

    Round & round bits: LP12/Cirkus/Kore/Herc II/Roksan Nima/Hana EL
    Megabits: Bluesound Node 2i/TEAC UD-H01 dac
    Making it louder bits: Phonostage: Dynavector P75 Amp: Cyrus 8vs/PSX-R Speakers: Royd Sintra II
    Connecting it together bits i/c's: Flashback Premier. Speaker cables: Van Damme Hifi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gromit View Post
    It's finally arrived, and just warming through...


    System; Michell Gyrodec SE/ Orbe Clamp/ Gert Pedersen armboard mod/ HR PSU/ SME V / J7 Tonearm cable/Ortofon Cadenza Black// Jez Arkless Turbo nutter B------ /Trichord Dino+

    Amplification and loudspeaker set up is at the moment being split into two groups, comprising the following;


    1. Same sources as above; SONY TAF-770ES/SONY CDP761E/Cable Talk 3.1 loudspeakercable/ Harbeth Compact7ES2/ Stands

    2. Virtue Audio Sensation M451battery PSU, ClarityCaps upgrade/ Sensation M901/Russian PIO caps with Teflon bypass caps upgrade/ JT Dynamic PSU with various tweaks/ Connex Audio 5N Litz loudspeaker cable, Impulse H6 Loudspeakers.




















    Me so horny- Impulse H6 Horny

  4. #734
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarzan View Post
    Let me let the coffee brew first Andy! Jeez some people!!!

    Richard.

    Round & round bits: LP12/Cirkus/Kore/Herc II/Roksan Nima/Hana EL
    Megabits: Bluesound Node 2i/TEAC UD-H01 dac
    Making it louder bits: Phonostage: Dynavector P75 Amp: Cyrus 8vs/PSX-R Speakers: Royd Sintra II
    Connecting it together bits i/c's: Flashback Premier. Speaker cables: Van Damme Hifi

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    I hope it sounds as good as it looks !

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    Ok here goes...

    I'm very surprised (in a good way) at how it drives the little ProAcs - they're only 85db/w or so (perhaps even less) but the KEL has no trouble getting decent volume out of them. The amp sounds sweet (it is an EL84 after all) and very clear, and place your ear against the speaker when the volume's off and there is virtual silence. A good sign.

    Downsides - easily rectifiable - are the stepped attenuator which has been fitted means the amp has waaaay too much gain. Only 3 or 4 clicks and it's more than loud enough. With more sensitive speakers it would be a problem. Will look into getting someone to fit an original volume control or sort what's already there. Still, it's perfectly useable as it is and no way a deal-breaker. The input selector's a bit noisy - needs a gentle fiddle and all's well and the thing then works 100% fine.

    The mains transformer's slightly noisy - in its defence our mains isn't good here (my Sony amp is silent at my folks' house but buzzes quietly away here) but putting Foculpods under the KEL and all is quiet. Obviously there's a bit of resonance from the case not helping.

    Sound quality is just 'KEL-like' for those familiar with it. Very listenable, sweet and detailed with a surprising amount of pep. Definitely not soft and cuddly!!

    So far I'm tempted to keep the amp - not as a main one - but use it as something to put into the system every so often just for fun. Will see how things progress once the volume control is sorted.
    Richard.

    Round & round bits: LP12/Cirkus/Kore/Herc II/Roksan Nima/Hana EL
    Megabits: Bluesound Node 2i/TEAC UD-H01 dac
    Making it louder bits: Phonostage: Dynavector P75 Amp: Cyrus 8vs/PSX-R Speakers: Royd Sintra II
    Connecting it together bits i/c's: Flashback Premier. Speaker cables: Van Damme Hifi

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    System; Michell Gyrodec SE/ Orbe Clamp/ Gert Pedersen armboard mod/ HR PSU/ SME V / J7 Tonearm cable/Ortofon Cadenza Black// Jez Arkless Turbo nutter B------ /Trichord Dino+

    Amplification and loudspeaker set up is at the moment being split into two groups, comprising the following;


    1. Same sources as above; SONY TAF-770ES/SONY CDP761E/Cable Talk 3.1 loudspeakercable/ Harbeth Compact7ES2/ Stands

    2. Virtue Audio Sensation M451battery PSU, ClarityCaps upgrade/ Sensation M901/Russian PIO caps with Teflon bypass caps upgrade/ JT Dynamic PSU with various tweaks/ Connex Audio 5N Litz loudspeaker cable, Impulse H6 Loudspeakers.




















    Me so horny- Impulse H6 Horny

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    Richard.

    Round & round bits: LP12/Cirkus/Kore/Herc II/Roksan Nima/Hana EL
    Megabits: Bluesound Node 2i/TEAC UD-H01 dac
    Making it louder bits: Phonostage: Dynavector P75 Amp: Cyrus 8vs/PSX-R Speakers: Royd Sintra II
    Connecting it together bits i/c's: Flashback Premier. Speaker cables: Van Damme Hifi

  9. #739
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gromit View Post
    Ok here goes...

    I'm very surprised (in a good way) at how it drives the little ProAcs - they're only 85db/w or so (perhaps even less) but the KEL has no trouble getting decent volume out of them. The amp sounds sweet (it is an EL84 after all) and very clear, and place your ear against the speaker when the volume's off and there is virtual silence. A good sign.

    Downsides - easily rectifiable - are the stepped attenuator which has been fitted means the amp has waaaay too much gain. Only 3 or 4 clicks and it's more than loud enough. With more sensitive speakers it would be a problem. Will look into getting someone to fit an original volume control or sort what's already there. Still, it's perfectly useable as it is and no way a deal-breaker. The input selector's a bit noisy - needs a gentle fiddle and all's well and the thing then works 100% fine.

    The mains transformer's slightly noisy - in its defence our mains isn't good here (my Sony amp is silent at my folks' house but buzzes quietly away here) but putting Foculpods under the KEL and all is quiet. Obviously there's a bit of resonance from the case not helping.

    Sound quality is just 'KEL-like' for those familiar with it. Very listenable, sweet and detailed with a surprising amount of pep. Definitely not soft and cuddly!!

    So far I'm tempted to keep the amp - not as a main one - but use it as something to put into the system every so often just for fun. Will see how things progress once the volume control is sorted.
    The KEL84 is a great little amp and a real giant killer IMHO, I've had a couple through my hands in the past. Get the pot sorted, and have a look to see what coupling caps are fitted, some decent caps here can make a real difference. Then look to the valves, some nice NOS drivers again make a real improvement.
    “Music has always been a matter of energy to me, a question of fuel. Sentimental people call it inspiration, but what they really mean is fuel. I have always needed fuel. I am a serious consumer. On some nights I still believe that a car with the gas needle on empty can run about fifty more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio”

    Hunter S Thompson

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    What language is "Strobo"?

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