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  1. #471
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    Hi Mike,

    Where are you slotting these in ?
    The pair with the flying earth leads will be going between my SUT and preamp/phono stage, and the others between my pre and power amp

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Hi Mike,

    The pair with the flying earth leads will be going between my SUT and preamp/phono stage, and the others between my pre and power amp

    Marco.
    Be *very* interested to hear how they sound
    TAD CD / DAC / Pre, Technics 1210, MCRU PSU, Mike New Bearing & Platter, Stillpoints LP1 weight, Speedy Steve Ebony armboard, Fidelity Research FR64FX arm, Ortofon SPU. Aurorasound VIDA Phono Pre Amp, TAD Power Amp, TAD E1 speakers. Coherent RTZ 3 Grounding box, Coherent grounding cables, Creaktiv racks. Coherent Mains Cables. SR Blue Fuse. Interconnects : Coherent and Yannis 223.5 Connect Litz. Coherent speaker cable. Audio Magic Transcendence Conditioner. Coherent mains socket. Mains Filters : , PS Audio Harvesters, Russ Andrews Purifiers, Tacima, Vertex. Black Ravioli and RDC supports. Electric Beach S1NX platforms for TAD CD and Technics. Ferrite chokes everywhere except the above. Ears, brain

    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Just spoken with Yannis (he was away abroad for a week), and a 0.5m and 1m pair of these (the latter without flying leads for use between pre and power amp) will be winging their way to me shortly
    Based on what I'm hearing, Marco, the synergy with the PhonoLitz tonearm cable and ConnectLitz interconnect between SUT and phono pre is outstanding and I'm certain you're going to like it.

    As for main preamp to power amp, we're both experimenting so it will be very interesting to hear if the synergy carries through with the 223.5 ConnectLitz single-ended and XLR balanced cables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    No doubt it will. I'm going for a 2.6mm core version of the Furukawa, for my copper amp, which will be hard-wired directly to the junction box (no plugs or fuses) containing the incoming 16mm armoured cable for my dedicated mains spur.
    Yep - Mark has already warned me that this cable is huge. Hopefully my 2m length with Furutech connectors will arrive soon and the Power Plant will revel in a low impedance feed.

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    Lol... Yes, he ensures me that it's a nice 'fat length'

    Should be a wheeze - I'm having mine fitted at the end of the month. As I said, the incoming cable for my dedicated spur is 16mm SWA, armoured (the standard type used to feed the incoming mains for all homes, via the local substation), shown here: http://quickbit.co.uk/electrical_cab...le-3-core-16mm), which then (from my meter downstairs) comes into one of these bad boys, at the 'source' end:





    ...and the Furukawa PCOCC-A 2.6mm solid-core mains cable:




    (details here: http://www.oyaide.com/ENGLISH/AUDIO/...ord/pg466.html) Key info: "It has demonstrated 30dB superiority in noise protection over standard indoor cable."


    ...will be hard-wired into t'other end (along with the Furukawa cable feeding my 6-way distribution block), and then connected to my copper amp with a Furutech FI-50 IEC plug. Trust me, that stuff is just about the best you can buy for mains cable, especially when terminated with these little chaps:





    Should be quite, erm, 'JUICY'!!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Fat bastard mains inlet versus regenerator. They are interesting alternative takes on a low impedance feed. I'm looking to do the same for my feed from P10 to the power amp, although I can't use a Furutech connector that end as the Chord has a very deeply recessed 16A IEC connector. Mark has found me a silver plated Martin Kaiser 16A plug that fits the recess.

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    Fat bastard mains inlet versus regenerator.
    Indeed. It's an interesting conundrum... I've never used a mains regenerator, so I've no idea the effect it would have, but then I've never felt that I needed one, such is the measured ultra-low impedance of my dedicated mains spur, and the superb sound that my system achieves.

    Out of curiosity, I would like to try one sometime, but the K.I.S.S approach with my method (minimise on all 'unnecessary gubbins') generally appeals more to my 'purist' sensibilities...

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brian2957 View Post
    Any more thoughts on the Yannis 223.5 t i/cs Martin.
    They're still running-in, Brian. I can hear that new-cable 'clankiness' gradually receding. Will give you more low-down in a few days time.

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    ta mate

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    Ok, things are settling very nicely indeed. The combination of my 423.5 PhonoLitz tonearm cable (arm to SUT with single destination earth tag) and 223.5 ConnectLitz (SUT to phono preamp with destination earth tag) is superb.

    Earthing is critical! My turntable, arm (via the tonearm cable), SUT and ConnectLitz are all four connected to the phono preamp's earth post, star-earthing style. Leave out any one and the sound degrades. I was puzzled earlier in the evening as to why the sound had gone off, and it was the SUT earth which had come loose. So even if you think everything is earthed, double-check as you may yield a nice upgrade in SQ for the sake of a bit of green wire.

    These two cables yield a huge amount of detail, together with a fabulous wide and deep soundstage with pinpoint focus. Despite the detail being extracted, they are not bright, edgy or harsh. This proves that construction is king and silver need not necessarily be tainted with the 'bright' tag. Frequency bandwidth goes from extreme highs to deep, deep bass. They are essentially tonally neutral with nothing favoured. Midrange and vocal quality are of the highest order, really thrilling with good recordings.

    I am over the moon with these cables and can only say they represent extremely good value for money and have very high build quality. Yannis has produced something very special here and I thank Marco for having spotted his products and given them a punt.

    Right then, I've been chatting with Yannis and he is now making me a 223.5 ConnectLitz XLR balanced cable to go from my phono preamp to main preamp, thus completing the phono chain. If that gives me a further improvement, then I shall order one more for the preamp to power amp run, and perhaps yet another for my SACD player to preamp run.

    P.S. all my cables are fitted with WBT 0110Ag plugs at extra cost. I have requested Neutrik NC3MXX/NC3FXX silver pin plugs for the XLR cable.

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