Technics 1210 internal regulation mods

[Dingdong]

I don't really plan to do much in the way of upgrading the SP-10. get a decent plinth on it and play some music is the plan.

Anyhow, back to 1210 mods.

I think the psu mods have been taken just about as far as they can go now with the internal regs and a decent psu.
The bearing upgrades seem to be quite good.

The only path I can see at the moment is maybe to stick a heavy platter on it and alter the drive to suit it. I'll have to have a read up on the circuit one day. There is a good chance that it might be limited by the ic's in the circuit.

[synsei]

I understand that you are comfortable with your lot Marco, but I am intrigued as to whether the SP10 would benefit as much or perhaps more from some of the amazing mods that have been developed for the SL series on these pages

[Marco]

I know which one I prefer. Can you guess which one it is?

How can you possibly say that, when you haven't heard a modded Techy at the level mine (or Martin's) is at? At least I'm speaking from experience of having heard both it and MANY very good SP10s!!

If you want to hold a T/T bake-off at yours or mine, Mark, I'm well up for it, mate... Or we can do it at Scalford?

Marco.

[Marco]

I understand that you are comfortable with your lot Marco, but I am intrigued as to whether the SP10 would benefit as much or perhaps more from some of the amazing mods that have been developed for the SL series on these pages

Yes, but I don't see anyone doing it, do you? Therefore, until it's been done, and we get to hear a suitably modded example, and compare it to a Techy, like Martin's or mine, it's simply all 'pie in the sky'!

Marco.

[synsei]

That's my point, no one is doing it, hence my post suggesting that it might be worth a go. The quality of the raw materials would suggest the results might be impressive especially as in standard form the SP10 outguns a standard SL by quite a wide margin...

[Marco]

Sure, I totally agree. But at the moment, the only benchmark we have with an SP10 is that which the stock model equals, therefore at the moment that's all we can judge.

The problem I have is that, even though it's been reported at length just how good an SL-1200/1210 gets when it's been taken to the level of the likes of Martin's and mine, I can still detect more than a faint whiff of disbelief and smugness from the detractors who can't (or won't) accept that an old 'DJ deck' could ever be better than the 'mighty SP10'....

And there's nothing I enjoy more than bursting that particular bubble!!

Marco.

[Wakefield Turntables]

The problem I have is that, even though it's been reported at length just how good an SL-1200/1210 gets when it's been taken to the level of the likes of Martin's and mine, I can still detect more than a faint whiff of disbelief and smugness from the detractors who can't (or won't) accept that an old 'DJ deck' could ever be better than the 'mighty SP10'....

And there's nothing I enjoy more than bursting that particular bubble!!

Marco.

Marco,

There is only one 'um, and thats f_ck 'um! Let them believe what they want. I nearly bought an sp10 best thing I ever did spending 90 quid, yep, 90 quid on my 1210, then several thousand getting it to the position its in now

[Dingdong]

How can you possibly say that, when you haven't heard a modded Techy at the level mine (or Martin's) is at? At least I'm speaking from experience of having heard both it and MANY very good SP10s!!

If you want to hold a T/T bake-off at yours or mine, Mark, I'm well up for it, mate... Or we can do it at Scalford?

Marco.

I'd be interested to hear an upgraded Sl-12xx at Scalford. If I get a plinth sorted for my SP-10 it will be in our room along with Dave's 1210. I can't see us doing comparisons, though. I'm quite keen to show the sound we've achieved with a modest budget in our system.

Maybe it's a good idea for the future to have a turntable bake-off. I'm always up for a comparison. It'd be nice to hear different stuff, with different presentations.

[MartinT]

Mark - my deck will be at Scalford.

[synsei]

I might have been dubious about such claims before but I'm not anymore, hence why I have traded up to a 1210 from my TD160. I'm certainly not denigrating the good work done by so many to bring the humble SL out of the closet and into the hallowed halls of the HiFi Gods equivalent of Mount Olympus, the modded Sl's of all incarnations deserve the plaudits they get. I just think it is a shame that some of the love and attention lavished on the SL family isn't filtering up and down the chain to other laudable Technics TT's as well as some of the superb classic DD TT's from other manufacturers...

We do need to avoid exuding a sense of elitism about the whole Technics scene though and just concentrate on letting the turntable do the talking. If people like what they hear then the choice will be obvious to them...