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    Lol - I've got more to say on this subject, and will do so, pending the time required to type it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Lol - I've got more to say on this subject, and will do so, pending the time required to type it!

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    I look forward to it. I saw the photos of your stands on the other thread, so I know you've got experience in these matters.

    Once I figure out how to post pics, I'll post one of my 110 pound sand-filled Sanus stand (spiked to the floor and spiked at the turntable) and my bespoke Harbeth stands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJack View Post
    I look forward to it. I saw the photos of your stands on the other thread, so I know you've got experience in these matters.

    Once I figure out how to post pics, I'll post one of my 110 pound sand-filled Sanus stand (spiked to the floor and spiked at the turntable) and my bespoke Harbeth stands.
    That's pretty hefty, at just under 50kg. Should be extremely stable.
    Presumably this is a tubular steel stand, filled with sand to absorb resonance? Is that by design or a modification?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbasrah View Post
    That's pretty hefty, at just under 50kg. Should be extremely stable.
    Presumably this is a tubular steel stand, filled with sand to absorb resonance? Is that by design or a modification?
    Good call. It is a giant Sanus stand that was given to me by an audio friend. He filled each post (5 feet high apiece) with sand. Unbelievably heavy.

    Perhaps this is why I don't hear any difference with equipment stands: because I already have good equipment stands!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJack View Post
    Good call. It is a giant Sanus stand that was given to me by an audio friend. He filled each post (5 feet high apiece) with sand. Unbelievably heavy.

    Perhaps this is why I don't hear any difference with equipment stands: because I already have good equipment stands!
    Sand is superb stuff for damping any resonances, because each partical can't really pass it on to it's neighbour any nasties are soon damped out.

    Wharfedale (an old speaker manufacturer from the UK) used to make a sand filled baffle speaker, the same thing applies, the baffle was non resonant due to the sand filling

    Try punching a bucket of sand & see how much it resonates
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    I use a converted tea trolley for the electronics; got spikes instead of wheels mounted in poly suspension bushes let into the wooden legs..........feckin marvellous.

    I do have serious heavyweight speaker stands though filled with sand in the base and top, expanding foam in the uprights
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    So to summarise, we have mass, rigidity, anti-resonance measures, acoustic de-coupling, and permanence. Excepting John, who has to shift the gear and refit wheels when folks come round for tea..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reid Malenfant View Post
    Sand is superb stuff for damping any resonances, because each partical can't really pass it on to it's neighbour any nasties are soon damped out.

    Wharfedale (an old speaker manufacturer from the UK) used to make a sand filled baffle speaker, the same thing applies, the baffle was non resonant due to the sand filling

    Try punching a bucket of sand & see how much it resonates
    Now try punching a bucket of kiln dried fine white sand mixed 50/50 with number 12 lead shot!
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