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  1. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Hi Jostein,



    It's just like Martin says; a straightforward plug-in

    If you're thinking of trying the Furutech, I can thoroughly recommend it. Never once have I introduced a Furutech product into my system and not been absolutely delighted with it. I use a number of their power connectors, to great effect.

    The AG-12 is, quite simply, the most musically involving sounding tonearm cable I've heard. Basically, it gets the balance between analysis and 'musicality' spot on, so that one obtains forensic insight into recordings, and as a result can hear deep into the mix, without the presentation ever straying into being clinical.

    If you can afford it, buy with confidence!




    Available here: http://www.mains-cables-r-us.co.uk/t...237532913.html

    I'm sure that David would give AoS members a little discount

    Marco.
    Thanks, I think I want to check out this one.
    My hifi system:

    Turntable: Technics SL-1200 MKII, Ortofon 2M Bronze cartridge, Mike New bearing, MCRU PSU (c), Oyaide HS-CF headshell, Oyaide MJ-12 TT mat, Vantage Audio Copper mat, Isonoe Isolation Feet, Isodek IF-2 isolation platform, Furutech Monza LP stabilizer, Herbie's Hal-O JR damper Phono Stage: Hagerman Cornet 3 (prototype) Amplifiers: EAR 868L Preamp, Transcription Audio 211 Heaven Power amp, Bob Carver Cherry 180 power amp CD Player: Ear Yoshino Acute Tuner: Magnum Dynalab 90T Speakers: Vandersteen 2CE SigII, Townshend Audio Super Tweeters, Transcription Audio Speakers Cables and stuff: LFD Audio interconnects and speaker cables, Mark Grant G2000HD, BlackCat Electronics, Van Den Hul Clearwater, Black Rhodium mains cables, Black Rhodium mains block, Finite Elements Resonator, Townhsend Stella Speaker stands, Pro Audio Bono hifi rack, Herbie's spike gliders, Herbie's Ultravox and Hal-O tube dampers, Super Black Hole CD mat Record Cleaning Machine: Loricraft PRC4

  2. #92
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    Just heard from Simon at HifiSound that my new SPU has arrived and will be with me on Wednesday!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    I shall be interested in how you find the new SPU, Marco, though I suspect that you now know you'll need a SUT capable of getting the absolute best from it.

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    Hi Martin,

    I shall be interested in how you find the new SPU, Marco, though I suspect that you now know you'll need a SUT capable of getting the absolute best from it.
    Oh absolutely... I intend to upgrade my SUT to an A23 Homage T1, your Hashimoto or perhaps this Ortofon one, which looks intriguing, sometime next year, hopefully before Scalford:





    http://www.ortofon.com/products/acce...mc-transformer

    However, do remember that the loading provided by my A23 (SPU) SUT was completely unsuitable for your Shelter cartridge, which is why we got the result we did when we swapped over SUTs on Saturday.

    My existing SUT sounded excellent with my old SPU, and I of course fully expect it to do the same with my new one

    Btw, what did you think of the look of Paul's new SR7EHD T/T PSU?

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Btw, what did you think of the look of Paul's new SR7EHD T/T PSU?
    Erm . . . Tirpitz? Nimitz? Another analogy for 'bloody huge and mean looking'?

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    Ha - you're not kidding!! Seriously, you simply *must* get one of these beasts, as it is an utter sonic revelation. You know that uncle Marco knows best...



    Marco.

    P.S Please note that all discussion on the Paul Hynes SR7EHD PSU have been moved to a separate thread in Strokes of Genius, which can be found here:

    http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?t=14305
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    I'll be doing Paul's reg mods first, using the SR-5 adjusted to 27V. If that is successful then I will certainly look at getting an SR-7xx where xx appears to be changing by the month

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    Default Arm Plate Reversal

    Back to the OP. It's seeing your arm plate on Saturday that led me to do the same thing: I couldn't get enough arm height adjustment with the Mike New platter and the spacers that were used to jack up my Dynavector to overcome the edge between the two surfaces always bugged me. Then I saw that your plate (the same as mine) had been reversed to provide a step-up rather than a step-down in the centre section. Light dawned!

    So tonight I removed the arm and plate and reversed the centre section to be a step-up and reassembled it all. Now the arm pillar chuck is bolted firmly to the plate without spacer nuts. I also have plenty of height adjustment so that I can run the Shelter very slightly nose down, as we discovered with your Ortofon that it plays rather well like that.

    I didn't expect much improvement to be honest but wowee! It sounds fantastic, with more air and insight into the acoustic of the venue. And, mercy mercy, sibilance is reduced to being no issue at all. What an incredible gain for 40 mins work!

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    Nice one, Martin. You mentioned you were going to do that, so I'm glad it worked out

    The question is, has the improvement you're hearing derived from reconfiguring the arm plate, running the Shelter slightly nose-down, or a combination of both?

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinT View Post
    Back to the OP. It's seeing your arm plate on Saturday that led me to do the same thing: I couldn't get enough arm height adjustment with the Mike New platter and the spacers that were used to jack up my Dynavector to overcome the edge between the two surfaces always bugged me. Then I saw that your plate (the same as mine) had been reversed to provide a step-up rather than a step-down in the centre section. Light dawned!

    So tonight I removed the arm and plate and reversed the centre section to be a step-up and reassembled it all. Now the arm pillar chuck is bolted firmly to the plate without spacer nuts. I also have plenty of height adjustment so that I can run the Shelter very slightly nose down, as we discovered with your Ortofon that it plays rather well like that.

    I didn't expect much improvement to be honest but wowee! It sounds fantastic, with more air and insight into the acoustic of the venue. And, mercy mercy, sibilance is reduced to being no issue at all. What an incredible gain for 40 mins work!
    Hi Martin,
    I've always said that vta / height adjust angle can make a big difference for the better in my experience with my 2M Black which is very suseptible to this (get it right = WOW !!, get it wrong = a bit dull and overly laid back) hence I love the fly on the wheel vta of the stock arm. Some dismiss the influence of it's effect but I always go with my own experience, a bit like Marco's utterences re: trusting his ears Absolutely right !! - Glad for you Martin, It's one of those sweet moments

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