Beechwoods' Goldring Lenco GL-75

[Marco]

No problem. It's what we're about on AOS

Marco.

[Retro Audio]

No problem. It's what we're about on AOS

Marco.

Quite!

Despite the responses to my posts on Beechwoods thread I still stand against Mass as a Mantra! Why? Because experience has shown that cutting mass, especially at the front end of the audio play back chain, results in great gains in musicality, most noticeable in the areas of pace, rhythm and timing, PRAT!
It may well be worth noting if not obvious that sufficient moving/rotational mass is required (coupled with small motor) to provide a reasonably constant play back speed. Absolute speed is not all that important but speed change is, direct drive does not solve this problem at all, far from it!
No negative criticism of the Thechnics SL1200 intended at all here, it’s a great turntable as it comes from the factory.
Regarding Korzybsky…Well if international bankers and world leaders had STARTED to read Science and Sanity we may not be in the truly awful and unsane situation that we seemingly are!

Best,

Nigel.

[Cotlake]

Ok Nigel,

Rather than speaking in riddles, it would be good if you can expose detail on your kit which might justify what you have said. You've expressed an opinion without supporting it with any evidence, and that includes all the points you've raised in your post. In contrast I challenge your perception that PRAT will be better with less mass at the input stage. My experience is exactly the opposite. Your comments on speed control are nothing more than your opinion. Please justify what you have said.

Please understand this is all about users getting the best from their systems. Most of the time we're not interested in the physics, but rather the sound we get. Your post is a potential fly in the ointment yet you offer no explainations to support what you have said. Unless you come back and justify what you have posted, I'm sure most of us will cast your opinion aside. If you have something serious to contribute, please come back with a sensible and seriously evidenced reply.....you know what I mean

Best wishes,

Greg

[Retro Audio]

Leaving aside differences of opinion, for the time being at least! In the context of this thread, getting a GL75 up and running from scratch and assuming funds to be quite finite? I would have thought it best to first sort the table with a nice arm and PU then initially this may be used sat in anything really that keeps it out of harms way and ponder what to ultimately use as a plinth whilst listening to the prototype. I’ve started this process with GL75 and later 401 fixed onto a lump of scrap wood which worked just fine for starters and cost nothing. One step up from this was to sit the wood onto a Sound Org wall table this works well and may offer a good medium term solution before considering exotic and expensive plinths.

For the record I am using a Rega Planar 3 with Linn Klyde and Croft Super Micro (Ortofon transformer step up) or Naim 32.5 Snaps for disc eq/pre-amp. Naim 110 or Denon PMA-250 SE amplifier with Cambridge R40 speakers.

The Rega is OK for what it is! Certainly not the best in the world but reliable and consistent. The 250 or 300 arms are I think excellent, I’ve used these on lots of tables since they came out with all sorts of PU’s from Grado’s to Koetsu’s with great results!

The performance of the Rega is massively enhanced if used on its dedicated three point wall stand!

Tip-Top.

[Beechwoods]

It's certainly been interesting reading the different views on plinth design and I will be getting on with that part of the project over the next few months. I plan on going for a sandwich form heavy plinth. and I hope to use all reclaimed materials from the Bristol Wood Recycling Project http://www.bwrp.org.uk/.

In the meantime I would really value thoughts from folk here on good arm / cart / stylus combinations. I want something that would work with the existing Lenco arm fixings in the first case. and something that wont cost more than the TT itself. Definitely less than £100. Second hand is great for the arm. I guess used carts / styli are a bit hit and miss...

Thanks everyone for your help

[Mike]

I want something that would work with the existing Lenco arm fixings in the first case. and something that wont cost more than the TT itself. Definitely less than £100.

Err... Oh!

There ain't that many arms around that will be a perfect match for the existing Lenco arm mount. There are problems with effective length and VTA if I remember correctly.

The place to ask is undoubtedly the Lenco Lovers forum...

[Beechwoods]

You mean here: http://www.lenco-lovers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=914

[Mike]

Yep... That's the place to be for all things Lenco.

[Prince of Darkness]

The Decca Unipivots are usually considered a good match.

[John]

Think sandwich plinth will be good, Maple is usually considered really good.