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    Quote Originally Posted by Minstrel SE View Post
    I wonder what the physics of the fluid damping is when related to tracking and the tonearm.
    As it was explained to me once, it's a bit like being in a swimming pool. If you're in the water and gently move your hand from side to side you can do it easily, as the resistance of the fluid is minimal. But the faster you try and move your hand the stronger the resistance - until eventually you get a kind of hydraulic lock. So this works in the same way - minimising any micromovement between the arm and cantilever by damping all movement above a certain frequency, and presenting what is effectively a totally rigid structure (in terms of the interface between cantilever and groove) that can still track across a record and ride any warps. It's very clever.

    As to the risk of fluid spill, it's minimal unless you're a complete klutz... the only way you could really do it would be to lift the arm and outrigger clear of the trough (which if set up right can't be done with the arm lift) and swing the trough away, leaving the paddle to drip on the record. Unlikely, but someone somewhere has done it. They probably shouldn't be left unsupervised anyway...
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    Well yes it seems very clever in that they have engineered it to fit together and allow an arm to track with a paddle and trough system. Its certainly intriguing and shouts Im a serious product.

    I just wonder why Ive never seen it on anything else but a Townsend and if it was that good why have I never seen it on a system that would be owned/demonstrated by the Stereophile set.

    So not enough of a difference for other manufacturers to bother with it on licence? Im not saying it doesnt work. It just seems like a lot of extra engineering and fuss for the benefits involved.

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    have you actually heard one or used one?
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    I'm only speculating, but I suspect it may have been a patent/licence issue.

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    I'm looking for a second deck and am seriously tempted by the rock, only thing that I don't like is its belt driven. But I get the thinking and can imagine the benefits of the paddle and trough.
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    Cool Trough and paddle on other decks

    Quote Originally Posted by farflungstar View Post
    I'm looking for a second deck and am seriously tempted by the rock, only thing that I don't like is its belt driven. But I get the thinking and can imagine the benefits of the paddle and trough.
    People have bought the trough and paddle separately and then used them on decks such as the 401, so I am sure that the system could be used on at least some direct drive decks.

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