High definition vinyl rips?

[magiccarpetride]

What your guys' take on the 24-bit/96 kHz rips of vinyl material? Is it really possible to achieve high resolution sample by playing back vinyl and capturing the signal with a decent analog-to-digital converter? Is it really a healthy 24-bit/96 kHz signal?

[TONEPUB]

I've had excellent luck so far....

If you have the disc space and the patience, 24/192 will bring you even closer, but 24/96 is excellent. Of course the quality of your rips will depend on everything else in the chain.

[magiccarpetride]

I've had excellent luck so far....

If you have the disc space and the patience, 24/192 will bring you even closer, but 24/96 is excellent. Of course the quality of your rips will depend on everything else in the chain.

Some people claim that vinyl is a medium that is capable of only 12 to 13 bit resolution maximum. If these limitations are indeed true, what would be the point in sampling the vinyl recordings to 24 bit resolution? Wouldn't it be like playing a VHS tape on a HD TV screen?

However, that may merely be an urban myth. How does one determine what is the resolution of an analog medium in terms of the digital sampling density? What I'm trying to say is that those naysayers could be talking straight out of their arses.

[Reid Malenfant]

What I'm trying to say is that those naysayers could be talking straight out of their arses.

They are doing just that

A top flight record deck & cartridge can sound better than just about any CD player. Please remember that analogue is virtually an infinite number of samples because you have the complete waveform & not one chopped into bits

A nice clean record & good gear playing it & i'm sure it'd be well worth recording in at least 24/96

[magiccarpetride]

They are doing just that

A top flight record deck & cartridge can sound better than just about any CD player. Please remember that analogue is virtually an infinite number of samples because you have the complete waveform & not one chopped into bits

A nice clean record & good gear playing it & i'm sure it'd be well worth recording in at least 24/96

I don't need no convincing when it comes to the special status of analog sound (when done well, of course). What I'm interested in discussing here is this: would a good vinyl rip equal a good SACD/DVD-Audio master? Would it even surpass it? I'm mainly talking about a 24-bit/96 kHz rip.

Example: I have a rather OK DVD-Audio master of Billy Cobham's legendary 1973 album "Spectrum" (24-bit/96 kHz). I like how it sounds, the cymbals are very detailed and realistically etched in space, the overall sound is soft, not grainy at all, the dynamics are happening and are quite convincing, and in general, this high def master is far superior in every respect to its CD equivalent.

Now, if someone were to find a good vinyl copy of the same album, and rip it in 24/96 using a top drawer gear, would that rip equal the DVD-Audio master?

[Reid Malenfant]

I think you'll it probably could be, yes A great deal would depend on the equipment that generates the 24/96 datastream though imo. Again you'd want it to be as good a quality as the vinyl playback system.

I'm not sure exactly what equipment would do this

But yes, a mint record with good quality equipment playing it (read loadsamoney ) & something of equal quality doing the conversion & you'd be onto a winner I'm sure it'd equal it, after all your digital copy came from somewhere You don't know what was used to actually make the 24/96 datastream on your disc, it may well be possible to surpass it quality wise...

[Orient_Pirate]

Try this one this what I use with FLACS,WAV and PCM rips. You need Vaio with DSD chip set though.

http://vaio-online.sony.com/prod_inf...2_2/index.html

[Alex_UK]

Looks like I've got that on my Vaio laptop and didn't even know it! Thank god I don't work in IT. Oh, hang on...

[Spur07]

I've heard plenty of 24bit Vinyl rips and they've all been pretty rubbish imo. Without exception the equivalent rip from CD sounded infinitely better. Apart from the fact that it always sounds invariably flat I'm not sure there's a way to remove all the hiss and pips properly.

Waste of time without proper post production pimping.

[DSJR]

They are doing just that

A top flight record deck & cartridge can sound better than just about any CD player. Please remember that analogue is virtually an infinite number of samples because you have the complete waveform & not one chopped into bits

A nice clean record & good gear playing it & i'm sure it'd be well worth recording in at least 24/96

I disagree with the above. Vinyl may well be "nice," but compared to the source recording it's pants. CD isn't, surprisingly, when compared with the source recording. Even though there appears to be differences in CD playback, they're tiny when compared to the supreme differences that LP playback introduces. These views are from first-hand experiences and not just hearsay. For LP's, a well fettled Decca gets close when set up in a suitable arm on a proper turntable, but even that is hampered by the often band-limited plastic it's playing...