What We Fight Against

[MartinT]

The High End Store. It's very funny, but more to the point I've had conversations like this many times and I've long since given up giving advice to non-audiophiles

[Techno Commander]

Hmmmm, one box eh?





Didnt we do that 30 years ago?

[DSJR]

Took me back a good few years to my innocence and naivety ... Hopefully, maturity has helped me see sense..

All I have against the "Wave" radio is the direct selling while maintaining huge purchase cost and profit for the manufacturer. As a modern interpretation of a 1940's-1060's table-radio, it works well enough with a rich tone which impresses. I found the bigger, taller one extremely boomy though.

Mind you, I'm stunned that HiFi companies haven't done something better and cheaper by now. All the alternatives are very much more expensive I think - I don't know if the B&W units are any good and the Meridian thingy is still far too dear, despite the price being slashed I understand..

[Steve Eddy]

The High End Store. It's very funny, but more to the point I've had conversations like this many times and I've long since given up giving advice to non-audiophiles

HA!

Yeah, saw that a while back. Hilarious. In a way, it kind of pokes fun at both sides.

se

[Steve Eddy]

Didnt we do that 30 years ago?

Yeah. And even better, you could take it with you to the beach!

se

[Steve Eddy]

Mind you, I'm stunned that HiFi companies haven't done something better and cheaper by now.

I don't see how you could do it better AND cheaper.

Slave labor in China can only get you so far. You'd also need a rather large economy of scale and that has some huge up front costs.

se

[Steve Eddy]

Oops. Missed this one.

All I have against the "Wave" radio is the direct selling while maintaining huge purchase cost and profit for the manufacturer.

The profits aren't huge. Or rather the margins aren't. Don't forget, Bose spends a truck load of money on marketing and advertising. It's the volume of sales that make it profitable, not huge margins.

se

[goraman]

Took me back a good few years to my innocence and naivety ... Hopefully, maturity has helped me see sense..

All I have against the "Wave" radio is the direct selling while maintaining huge purchase cost and profit for the manufacturer. As a modern interpretation of a 1940's-1060's table-radio, it works well enough with a rich tone which impresses. I found the bigger, taller one extremely boomy though.

Mind you, I'm stunned that HiFi companies haven't done something better and cheaper by now. All the alternatives are very much more expensive I think - I don't know if the B&W units are any good and the Meridian thingy is still far too dear, despite the price being slashed I understand..

It has been done,both better and cheaper. Cambridge Soundworks modle 88CD by Henry Kloss.
http://www.theartofsound.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=5733

[DSJR]

I don't see how you could do it better AND cheaper.

Slave labor in China can only get you so far. You'd also need a rather large economy of scale and that has some huge up front costs.

se

In the UK, the "Wave" series of products sell direct to the consumer and never via a Bose dealer..

The little Denon DM3/30 series costs around the same, the main unit is superb with preamp outputs too and the little Mission sourced (originaly) speakers were fine. had the things been presented more simply in a single stylish box (with extra long ports and subtle eq to aid bass), I'm sure it would have been cheaper. I mean, if you buy big quantities, I've seen Chinese made active speakers that look very similar to commercially available £400 ones for £60pr tops ex factory. I suspect the Wave is made by the tens of thousands at a time (?) so wouldn't cost a huge amount to put together. The mouldings would be cheap in that quantity, the drive units are a very few quid each, the credit card remote is the cheapest type they can use imo and the CD drive and electronics can't be more than a few dollars each either.

Just my thoughts as a (now) outsider. There's making a living and there's making a killing in my view. Sadly, what's left of our domestic audio industry isn't really aware of the difference and carries on the same old way twenty years after the writing was on the wall.

Come back Rega, all is forgiven - even their £6K CD player is a bargain when compared to inferior £15K+ machines apparently.....

[anthonyTD]

brilliant, just brilliant!
say's it all realy!
anthony...