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    Default Dilemma. Tonearm rewire or upgrade?

    My tonearm needs a rewire.
    There’s a break in one of the cables somewhere.
    It’s a Rega RB250 fitted to a Pink Triangle LPT.

    For the price of a rewire I could gamble on another arm 2nd hand from eBay.
    Anyone have any advice or strong opinions?
    I do sort of like the idea of repair rather than replace but you know…. New shiney stuff!

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    Return to Rega for a proper rewire which is most likely less expensive than a rewire from another company/person and done properly, which requires a rebuild.

    You might buy an arm from e-Bay and have other problems. At least this way you can be assured it is 100%.

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    That didn’t even cross my mind as an option.
    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hifi_dave View Post
    Return to Rega for a proper rewire which is most likely less expensive than a rewire from another company/person and done properly, which requires a rebuild.

    You might buy an arm from e-Bay and have other problems. At least this way you can be assured it is 100%.
    I think that is what I would do, you never know it maybe a slight upgrade too?
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    Yes, they have upgraded the wiring over the years.

    When Rega do a rewire, they dismantle the arm to make sure the internal wiring is laying correctly and then they rebuild using the appropriate jig. You can't do that by pulling the wire through as third parties do.

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    Strong Opinion from a current Rega turntable user.

    Get your arm repaired and fettled.
    AudioOrigami rewire.

    Will be an upgrade over stock Rega wiring.
    From memory he uses Van Damme mic cable and Neutrik connectors, may have changed mines was many years ago.

    I know Jon(J7) outside of forumland, and he's forgotten more about tonearms than most engineers know.
    Back in the day when i ran a Gyrodec, I got him to rewire my Michell Technoarm (an upgraded Rega arm) and it got scarily close to my SME V that replaced it.

    SME was better, yup, but "diminishing returns" better.
    The Rega arm is worth saving.





    Quote Originally Posted by Sparker242 View Post
    My tonearm needs a rewire.
    There’s a break in one of the cables somewhere.
    It’s a Rega RB250 fitted to a Pink Triangle LPT.

    For the price of a rewire I could gamble on another arm 2nd hand from eBay.
    Anyone have any advice or strong opinions?
    I do sort of like the idea of repair rather than replace but you know…. New shiney stuff!
    AC POWER
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    Or just upgrade to a SME V.
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    Oooft!
    AC POWER
    Hardwired 10kVA balanced mains powering entire system
    AMPS
    Meridian 557 power Amp (Modded) / PS Audio BHK Preamp (Modded)
    SPEAKERS
    Wharfedale Evo 4.4
    DAC
    PS Audio Directstream (Modded)
    TURNTABLE
    Pro-Ject X8 balanced output via XLR / Ortofon Quintet Blue cartridge
    PHONOSTAGE
    Pro-Ject DS3 B balanced Input (TT and Phonostage powered by Pro-Ject Power box RS2 linear psu)
    DIGITAL
    OPPO 203 (Modded: Linear PSU, i2s output to Dac) - Roon Endpoint, HDMI input used for all things Streaming/ PS5 /AppleTV ... also good for movies apparently?
    MUSIC PLAYBACK
    Tweaked AP-Linux based Roon Server into Oppo 203 as Roon endpoint
    Ipad Roon Remote.
    Apple Music/ YouTube via AppleTV, fed to Dac via Oppo HDMI input/i2s output to Dac.
    SPEAKER CABLES
    Biwired: Duelund DCA10GA (Bass) Duelund DCA16GA (mid & treble) Duelund 12DCA used as jumpers (On
    "Blackcat Cable" Chris Sommivigo's advice - yup, even with biwire it sounds better - and it does)
    INTERCONNECTS
    All Balanced: Ghost+ recording studio XLR cables

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazjam View Post
    Strong Opinion from a current Rega turntable user.

    Get your arm repaired and fettled.
    AudioOrigami rewire.

    Will be an upgrade over stock Rega wiring.
    From memory he uses Van Damme mic cable and Neutrik connectors, may have changed mines was many years ago.

    I know Jon(J7) outside of forumland, and he's forgotten more about tonearms than most engineers know.
    Back in the day when i ran a Gyrodec, I got him to rewire my Michell Technoarm (an upgraded Rega arm) and it got scarily close to my SME V that replaced it.

    SME was better, yup, but "diminishing returns" better.
    The Rega arm is worth saving.
    Yep, he rewired my 774 with Ikemi silver wire. Not the cheapest but was well worth doing.
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