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I'm stuart.
Do cables make a difference?
Good morning all.
Constantly hearing about cables and the difference that they make. I can appreciate the difference between a cheap cable and an expensive one, but would you really spend hundreds of pounds on a cable, rather than upgrading one of the items in the chain?
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I'm Alan.
Of course they do.
However the benefit will depend on how far up the quality chain you are, the compatibility of the equipment you are joining, plus your own ears.
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I'm Grant.
a done to death topic im afraid stuart. the results are sometimes fairly noticeable, and yet often subjective .... you pays your money and takes your chances. i like a well made cable made from good quality materials, but not( 'silly priced' afaic). others will have their own take, so best to suck it and see
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Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?
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I'm stuart.
I think I will stick with what I have, they are solid and well made and were recommended by the installer for a pair of Audiostatics. Obviously you could get an improvement, same with everything, but I guess you need to draw the line somewhere with the upgrade path and actually enjoy the music.
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I'm Grant.
a few cable guys here so you may get more responses in fullness of time
Regards,
Grant
I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work.... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
FIIO K7 BT, M11 PLUS, BTR7, KA5 - OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - PANASONIC 4K ULTRA HD TV - PIXEL 6 - AVANTREE LR BLUETOOTH - 2* X600 SOUNDCORE - HEADPHONES INCLUDE, FIIO, NURAPHONES', FOCAL, OPPO, BOSE, CAMBRIDGE, BOWER & WILKINS, DEVIALET, MARSHALL, SONY, MITCHELL & JOHNSTON - 2*ZBOOK'S- MERCURY BD ROM, ROON, QOBUZ, TIDAL, PLEX, CYBERLINK, JRIVER - MULTI HDD'S -
Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?
“Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".
“You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”
"You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”
“There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”
***SMILE, BE HAPPY***
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I'm Geoff.
The reason cables of all types have varying effects on the sound, is that none are perfect (including 'digital' interconnects).
Just go with what you like the sound of in your system if you get the chance to compare.
It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!
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I'm Adrian.
Cables are IMO one of the most contentious and difficult areas of a HiFi system. There is and can be a lot of smoke and mirrors around them, especially the higher end, ultra super-duper, made with exacting technical specifications and then treated with snake oil to get that last bit of detail from your system. I believe a lot of Hifi cable brands actually source their basic components of their products from proper cable and plug manufacturers, make their cables up and then brand them. Often they will market them with a brief of - we went to exacting testing and trials to get the best, this may or may not be true.Originally Posted by stuartm1962
So does it all mean its balls**t? Well no it isn't, different types of cables, copper, tinned copper, silver, and so on have properties of their own, and the construction, such as number of strands, solid, or multiple core etc. IMO a key for a good cable is to have low resistance, so finding one that is and is suitable between your components is the trick.
I have tried out quite a few interconnects and speaker cables, from relatively cheap to around mid priced, some worked well and others just did not do it for me, and it was not always the higher priced ones that were best.
My advice is if you want see if yours system sound can be improved with new cables then try and trial some in your system, some manufactures offer that, Chord used and I think Eccose do, I expect others do and some dealers.
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I'm Grant.
i'm saying nothing...nothing
Regards,
Grant
I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work.... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
FIIO K7 BT, M11 PLUS, BTR7, KA5 - OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - PANASONIC 4K ULTRA HD TV - PIXEL 6 - AVANTREE LR BLUETOOTH - 2* X600 SOUNDCORE - HEADPHONES INCLUDE, FIIO, NURAPHONES', FOCAL, OPPO, BOSE, CAMBRIDGE, BOWER & WILKINS, DEVIALET, MARSHALL, SONY, MITCHELL & JOHNSTON - 2*ZBOOK'S- MERCURY BD ROM, ROON, QOBUZ, TIDAL, PLEX, CYBERLINK, JRIVER - MULTI HDD'S -
Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?
“Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".
“You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”
"You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”
“There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”
***SMILE, BE HAPPY***
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I'm openingabottleofwine.
£4,200! I paid over £5,000 for mine!
Same old nonsense talked about "bottlenecking". Clearly they don't understand how current flows in a conductor, Whilst it's not quite as straightforward as it seems, it's certainly not about the electrons trying all to squeeze into a conductor of small diameter.
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