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    Quote Originally Posted by rmcin626 View Post
    I think it was one of the albums I bought from you Grant
    maybe robin. it was a nice copy anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    maybe robin. it was a nice copy anyway.
    its a good copy Grant, although not a record I play too often, I’ll have look next time I go up to the music room (the loft)
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    Quote Originally Posted by rmcin626 View Post
    its a good copy Grant, although not a record I play too often, I’ll have look next time I go up to the music room (the loft)
    have a listen robin.. its one of those you rarely put on or think about until its on and then you say, i must play this more... but never do lol
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


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    Quote Originally Posted by AJSki2fly View Post
    I think Animals was one of there worst produced albums, a somewhat muddy mix IMO, shame because I like it as well, I have the 2018 re-master on Vinyl released in 2022 which is a big improvement IMHO, the soundstage is better and you can hear more details from the mix and it is better spaced.

    Might be worth checking out the https://www.discogs.com/release/2453...als-2018-Remix the CD version.
    I take the view that the original is definitive regardless of production values, for me the production values (or lack of them) are intrinsic to the art. So I don't actually want a 'cleaned up' version - it just wouldn't sound like 'Animals' is supposed to sound - to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    have a listen robin.. its one of those you rarely put on or think about until its on and then you say, i must play this more... but never do lol
    This is the one https://www.discogs.com/release/9287...de-Of-The-Moon, will have a listen later
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    Quote Originally Posted by rmcin626 View Post
    This is the one https://www.discogs.com/release/9287...de-Of-The-Moon, will have a listen later
    ah thats the reissue... still its 180g and sounds good
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    ah thats the reissue... still its 180g and sounds good
    Remastered By – Bernie Grundman, James Guthrie, Joel Plante , always helps
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    I take the view that the original is definitive regardless of production values, for me the production values (or lack of them) are intrinsic to the art. So I don't actually want a 'cleaned up' version - it just wouldn't sound like 'Animals' is supposed to sound - to me.

    If that makes sense. I'm not sure it makes sense to me either - but that's where I'm at.
    Yes Martin, you do have a point in that how it was originally produced was how the band hopefully wanted it to sound at the time, so maybe that is how we should appreciate it. However I believe that PF released the 2018 re-master with the intention of it sounding as they would have like it to originally, or perhaps if you are cynical it was just to get some more money for the record company and the band.
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    i suppose it would depend originally if the band had much say in how THEY wanted it to sound opposed to some guy doing the editing etc.
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    ah thats the reissue... still its 180g and sounds good
    Hi Grant, as you may have seen I have just listened to DSOTM on the 2016 re-master on vinyl and also on the 40th Anniversary SACD to try and get a clear and recent view. Both are very listenable, the 2016 vinyl sounds better than I remember it, but maybe that is due to my recent system changes. They actually sound very similar IMO, but I would say the SACD 40th release has the edge, it has slightly more air and detail in the mix, the difference is quite subtle. I suppose you could argue this was down to the limitations of my systems vinyl replay capabilities, I do not think this is the case though as I have some other albums that exhibit the same sense of air and detail as the DSOTM SACD. Anyway I can happily listen to either versions.
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