well you've got the studio master, the production master, first generation, second generation and so on. There's rarely just one master tape.
And each time you make an analogue copy you raise the noise floor. So who knows what generation master they use? They never say and no-one seems to ask.
Current Lash Up:
TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.
Listening is the act of aural discrimination and dissemination of sound, and accepting you get it wrong sometimes.
Analog Inputs: Pro-Ject Signature 10 TT & arm, Benz Micro LP-S, Michel Cusis MC, Goldring 2500 and Ortofon Rondo Blue cartridges, Hitachi FT5500 mk2 Tuner
Digital:- Marantz SA-KI Pearl CD player, RaspberryPi/HifiBerry Digi+ Pro, Buffalo NAS Drive
Amplification:- AudioValve Sunilda phono stage, Krell KSP-7B pre-amp, Krell KSA-80 power amp
Output: Wilson Benesch Vector speakers, KLH Ultimate One Headphones
Cables: Tellurium Q Ultra Black II RCA & Chord Epic 2 RCA, various speaker leads, & links
I think I am nearing audio nirvana, but don’t tell anyone.
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Listening is the act of aural discrimination and dissemination of sound, and accepting you get it wrong sometimes.
Analog Inputs: Pro-Ject Signature 10 TT & arm, Benz Micro LP-S, Michel Cusis MC, Goldring 2500 and Ortofon Rondo Blue cartridges, Hitachi FT5500 mk2 Tuner
Digital:- Marantz SA-KI Pearl CD player, RaspberryPi/HifiBerry Digi+ Pro, Buffalo NAS Drive
Amplification:- AudioValve Sunilda phono stage, Krell KSP-7B pre-amp, Krell KSA-80 power amp
Output: Wilson Benesch Vector speakers, KLH Ultimate One Headphones
Cables: Tellurium Q Ultra Black II RCA & Chord Epic 2 RCA, various speaker leads, & links
I think I am nearing audio nirvana, but don’t tell anyone.
Not always black and white case. I have heard excellent digital copies taken from analogue tape and total shi%. All depends on who is doing the mastering and production and how well they do it.
Obviously original tape can be fantastic or crap too, depending on condition. But taking a digital copy is not always a sure route to creating a great copy because during the mastering so much damage can be done to the original recording.
If you understand all the problems that can occur in digital audio because of introduction of noise then remember this can also happen in the studio.
My last copy of DSOTM was produced from a digital remaster and it is sounds terrible.
Main system : VPI Scout 1.1 / JMW 9T / 2M Black / Croft 25R+ / Croft 7 / Heco Celan GT 702
Second System : Goldring Lenco GL75 / AT95EX / Pioneer SX590 / Spendor SP2
You don't know that the reason it sounds terrible is because it is from a digital master. There could be a lot of other reasons, most likely that you don't share the same artistic vision for the material as whoever re-mastered it.
The idea that studio engineers don't know what they are doing does not marry up with my own experience. Especially when you consider this is DSOTM not some obscure recording by an unknown band. They are not likely to let the teaboy do the digital copy.
Current Lash Up:
TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.
Problem with remastering albums is that the mastering engineer may decide to add EQ to their taste it immediately departs from the original. I just want a very good copy of the original, there I have answered my own question. Buy a brand new sealed first generation copy of DSOTM - that would be £4200 currently on Discogs.
Main system : VPI Scout 1.1 / JMW 9T / 2M Black / Croft 25R+ / Croft 7 / Heco Celan GT 702
Second System : Goldring Lenco GL75 / AT95EX / Pioneer SX590 / Spendor SP2
On some pressings, a faintly audible orchestral version of the Beatles' "Ticket to Ride" can be heard after "Eclipse" over the album's closing heartbeats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Side_of_the_Moon
not sure that is on my CD version. Will have to turn it up a bit next time I play it and see.
Anyone ever heard this?
Current Lash Up:
TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.
Pink Floyd – 'Dark Side Of The Moon'
Label: EMI United Kingdom – 7243 8 29752 2 9
Format: CD, Album, Reissue, Remastered, Repress, Stereo
Country: Europe
Released: 1994
Genre: Rock
Style: Psychedelic Rock, Prog Rock, Classic Rock
No 'Ticket to Ride' heard after the end of 'Eclipse'. In fact it's a pretty anodyne version, lacking any real emotion upon listening.
Last edited by Barry; 24-01-2023 at 21:43. Reason: Addition
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