They're just fancy 2 way Snells aren't they, were they as bad?
Location: London/Durham
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I'm Lawrence.
They're just fancy 2 way Snells aren't they, were they as bad?
Emmm, well, the Suggie with these 140s is starting to grow on me, the bass on the 140s could be ill defined with the S500 or older a21 I had, but its much better defined with this A21 sig, quite a joy actually. The brightness persists though with wind/string instruments at high treble, so new speakers are on the horizon. What to look for, considering my room size (not very big), I sit only less than 3 metres away from the speakers!
Last edited by Mikeandvan; 23-01-2023 at 11:47.
Current system 1210 GR. CDP - Meridian G08. Amp -Sugden A21I - Sig. Wharfedale Lintons.
Location: London/Durham
Posts: 6,869
I'm Lawrence.
I sit about the same distance as you from mine and they're about 4' tall with 2x8" midrange and a 12" woofer so I wouldn't worry too much.
Your walls look a bit bear, if they are all like that then it is likely that you will be getting higher frequency reflections and enhancement, to calm things down a bit get some cheap wall hanging art from TK Max and put up, or a thin rug especially behind where you sit. You can buy acoustic foam like this https://advancedacoustics-uk.com/pro...panel-600x1200 to put into the art frames behind the canvas which helps even more, I did this and it helped. You could initially try and experiment with an old blanket or one of those sofa throws https://www.amazon.co.uk/EHEYCIGA-Bl...zcF9hdGY&psc=1, hung up to see how it helps.
Don't underestimate how a room can effect the sound or the speaker position. A lively undamped room with speakers that enhance the top end may make it sound a bit harsh or aggressive, apart from getting odd acoustics going on from reflected sound off the walls. You might find with a little room treatment the speakers are fine.
Listening is the act of aural discrimination and dissemination of sound, and accepting you get it wrong sometimes.
Analog Inputs: Pro-Ject Signature 10 TT & arm, Benz Micro LP-S, Michel Cusis MC, Goldring 2500 and Ortofon Rondo Blue cartridges, Hitachi FT5500 mk2 Tuner
Digital:- Marantz SA-KI Pearl CD player, RaspberryPi/HifiBerry Digi+ Pro, Buffalo NAS Drive
Amplification:- AudioValve Sunilda phono stage, Krell KSP-7B pre-amp, Krell KSA-80 power amp
Output: Wilson Benesch Vector speakers, KLH Ultimate One Headphones
Cables: Tellurium Q Ultra Black II RCA & Chord Epic 2 RCA, various speaker leads, & links
I think I am nearing audio nirvana, but don’t tell anyone.
Blanket over the telly when listening. That's a big reflective panel where ideally you want some sort of diffuser.
Coffee table won't help but for practical purposes it has to be there I suppose. Put more clutter on it!
Absorption on the wall behind your settee will help a lot. A large plant or something to the right of the right-hand speaker to reduce early reflections from that wall. A rug on top of the carpet directly in front of the speakers to reduce HF floor bounce.
Loads you can do without spending any serious money and it will all give benefits.
Current Lash Up:
TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.
Yeh, I keep meaning to buy something to put on the walls, just for decorative purposes!
Current system 1210 GR. CDP - Meridian G08. Amp -Sugden A21I - Sig. Wharfedale Lintons.
These also are reasonably priced, there are different sizes and a selection of prints/designs. https://www.amazon.co.uk/murando-abs...&sr=8-111&th=1Based on my tests at home you would get a more balance sound, well worth trying out before you splash out on other speakers, unless you just want to try out some other speakers.
By the way if you go down the GIK acoustics type of panels then you can multiply the cost by 3-4 times.
Listening is the act of aural discrimination and dissemination of sound, and accepting you get it wrong sometimes.
Analog Inputs: Pro-Ject Signature 10 TT & arm, Benz Micro LP-S, Michel Cusis MC, Goldring 2500 and Ortofon Rondo Blue cartridges, Hitachi FT5500 mk2 Tuner
Digital:- Marantz SA-KI Pearl CD player, RaspberryPi/HifiBerry Digi+ Pro, Buffalo NAS Drive
Amplification:- AudioValve Sunilda phono stage, Krell KSP-7B pre-amp, Krell KSA-80 power amp
Output: Wilson Benesch Vector speakers, KLH Ultimate One Headphones
Cables: Tellurium Q Ultra Black II RCA & Chord Epic 2 RCA, various speaker leads, & links
I think I am nearing audio nirvana, but don’t tell anyone.