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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    govt sell it to make money..but not to home users.. some of it goes to gasprom, or was; dunno if it still does.
    more info re this here..

    Far from being an abundant, national resource that we can turn on at will, there are some important limitations to what the North Sea can provide and when. Here's why.

    Oil-heavy basin: The geology of the North Sea means that, after nearly 50 years of production, 70% of what’s left in the basin is oil not gas – and not the type of oil that we use in UK refineries, which means that we export 80% of it.

    Limited gas reserves: To put North Sea gas reserves in context, as Europe seeks to slash its dependence on Russian gas, even extracting all proven UK reserves and resources from new fields would only meet about 1% of European gas demand each year to 2050, according to the Climate Change Committee.

    Long development time: It takes on average 28 years to go from discovering a new field to getting any oil or gas out of the ground, according to official figures. So, even if the government were to licence a new gas field today, it would likely be 2050 – the year the UK has pledged to be net zero –before it produced anything we could use in our homes.

    Pipeline of oil, not gas: There are, of course, licensed fields further along the development pipeline, but most of this is oil, not gas. Analysis by Uplift of Rystad data shows that oil makes up 73% of the resource in the 46 new fields up for approval in the next three years.
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    Your estimate is high because prices have soared, standing charges have almost tripled too.

    Our monthly direct debit went from £120 to £278, that wasn't due to usage it was due to price rises.

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    Mine has gone from 120 to 240 to 410! In a few months

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    seems to have gone up rather too much tbh.

    my 40 yr old freezer is more than half empty now so will be empty fairly soon. sure its costing a small fortune. once ive enough put by to cover any issues im gonna replace my fridge as its pretty old now too and is falling apart lol. also switched off a beer fridge...
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    **I’ve studied deeply in the philosophies and religions, but cheerfulness kept breaking through**

    **Hate makes you impotent, Love makes you crazy. Somewhere in the middle you can survive.**

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy.”

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    There's nothing remarkable about it. All one has to do is hit the right keys at the right time and the instrument plays itself. -- Johann Sebastian Bach.

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”

    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    seems to have gone up rather too much tbh.

    my 40 yr old freezer is more than half empty now so will be empty fairly soon. sure its costing a small fortune. once ive enough put by to cover any issues im gonna replace my fridge as its pretty old now too and is falling apart lol. also switched off a beer fridge...
    You have a separate fridge for your beer?
    Barry

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    Surly the point is that the cost of our electricity and gas has gone up more than 4 times as much as any other country on the planet, things just don't add up. do we pay more in tax on E&G than other countries? the tax hasn't increased but the government will be well pleased that they are getting more cash per unit sold due to the higher price, the government need to recoup the billions spent during the pandemic, is this a quiet way of doing that? let the energy companies milk us for all we are worth and quietly rake in the tax.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    You have a separate fridge for your beer?
    used to.. its off now, but tbh i dont really drink beer now. so no great loss. it was also used as a fridge overflow when i had a lot of shopping; i was inclined to live out of fridge and freezer as i find it difficult to make from scratch now, unless its quick and doesn't need me standing over it. a steak is do-able when im feeling better.
    in fact i just got told they are putting up my payments by 14 quid.. i will see how it works out but im intent on using a bit less than last year. power was also cut to the sheds/garden etc...every little helps
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
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    **I’ve studied deeply in the philosophies and religions, but cheerfulness kept breaking through**

    **Hate makes you impotent, Love makes you crazy. Somewhere in the middle you can survive.**

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy.”

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    There's nothing remarkable about it. All one has to do is hit the right keys at the right time and the instrument plays itself. -- Johann Sebastian Bach.

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”

    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

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    I also had a worry about the energy consumption of my sound system. My power amp is an Usher R1.5 which apparently consumes 720 Watts when it is switched on. After using our smart meter I reckon the system uses around 16 pence an hour up from 7 pence an hour. Then, whilst checking this stuff I find that when we get up in the morning the smart meter is now reading £1.07 where it used to display 44 pence. That of course is before we actually start our day. I wonder how long it will be before the energy companies start publishing record huge profits ? Of all the non essential consumer stuff in the house I think my power amp uses the most.

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    my standing daily charge(which is a bloody disgrace by way) is about 50p and 30p or thereabouts. so thats 300 notes a year without having anything on. a total con... about £10 billion from across country every year just to be connected to grids..
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - PANASONIC 4K ULTRA HD TV - AVANTREE LR BLUETOOTH - NURAPHONE', BOSE, CAMBRIDGE, BOWER & WILKINS, DEVIALET & SONY HEADPHONES - 2*ZBOOK'- ROON, QOBUZ, PLEX, JRIVER - MULTI HDD'S -

    **I’ve studied deeply in the philosophies and religions, but cheerfulness kept breaking through**

    **Hate makes you impotent, Love makes you crazy. Somewhere in the middle you can survive.**

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy.”

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    There's nothing remarkable about it. All one has to do is hit the right keys at the right time and the instrument plays itself. -- Johann Sebastian Bach.

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”

    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

  10. #30
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    So, back to my question...is a valve amp using more energy than a general SS amp?

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