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    depending on how often you use it, it may be worth switching it completely off when its not going to be used for a while.. it'll save 70w on all time.. the adage of amps requiring to be kept warm all time is imo a little wrong. 20 mins before listening, for me is all they really need.

    and perhaps as Barry does, swap out the amp in summer for one that doesnt heat the house for you. if your amp is in a spare room, you could turn down the radiator in that room so you get benefit of the heat when its on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    depending on how often you use it, it may be worth switching it completely off when its not going to be used for a while.. it'll save 70w on all time.. the adage of amps requiring to be kept warm all time is imo a little wrong. 20 mins before listening, for me is all they really need.

    and perhaps as Barry does, swap out the amp in summer for one that doesnt heat the house for you. if your amp is in a spare room, you could turn down the radiator in that room so you get benefit of the heat when its on.
    Thank you Grant. Sound advice (!)
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    £5100 estimated bill .... oh my gosh thats utterly appalling . hope you find something cheaper .
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    You guys really have scary estimated bills
    I am just wondering if that will happen here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CageyH View Post
    You guys really have scary estimated bills
    I am just wondering if that will happen here.
    I believe the electricity increase in France has been capped at 4%. That is the advantage of having essential utilities still under state control - unlike here in the UK.
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    utilities should always be state controlled.
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    There's nothing remarkable about it. All one has to do is hit the right keys at the right time and the instrument plays itself. -- Johann Sebastian Bach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    utilities should always be state controlled.
    As should all essential services. I'd add basic versions of house sales, legal services and funerals, etc. to the list.

    If the Tories could get away with it they'd privatise the government (and probably let the Yanks win the tender ).
    Conspiracy theories are only perpetuated because people go looking for them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    As should all essential services. I'd add basic versions of house sales, legal services and funerals, etc. to the list.

    If the Tories could get away with it they'd privatise the government (and probably let the Yanks win the tender ).
    indeed; i agree..
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    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
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    **I’ve studied deeply in the philosophies and religions, but cheerfulness kept breaking through**

    **Hate makes you impotent, Love makes you crazy. Somewhere in the middle you can survive.**

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy.”

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    There's nothing remarkable about it. All one has to do is hit the right keys at the right time and the instrument plays itself. -- Johann Sebastian Bach.

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”

    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

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    Well, it was Thatcher who sold off the "family silver" for a quick fix. That was bad enough, but later legislation was introduced whereby foreign states and companies could buy into them. So that is why one of our water and one of the electricity companies are French owned. Our EDF bills are no doubt subsidising French consumers.
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    Yes, we are subsidising French consumers. Very few countries allow their utilities to be owned by foreign companies. No wonder our bills are so ridiculously high.

    As I said previously, the energy companies are grossly inflating their estimated bills in order to build up their coffers. Not just me spreading rumours, Martin Lewis and one of the BBC consumer experts said exactly the same. So if you have an enormous estimated bill, you just have to refuse to pay and work out a more sensible charge.

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