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    When I am at home my audio system is on for about 12 hours a day (either listening to the radio, or playing music). It is powered by a 50W/channel amplifier.

    All the lightbulbs are LED types and I have a freezer which is in a cupboard, so is not working under the best of conditions.

    Total fuel bill (electricity and gas) is £2K per annum.
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    So, at 33p per kWh, if the primaluna is 0.3kw and I have it on for 10 hours that would equate to around a quid ?

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    sounds about right
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    so i'm in a 2 bed detached, it has a lounge, kitchen, bathroom and a basement, the wall and loft are insulated and i have a reasonably new boiler, my house isn't huge by any stretch of the imagination, but Shell energy recon i need to pay £340 a month, daylight robbery, they also say my smart meter has stopped sending them info which is strange as it seems to be working fine.

    my thinking is they are asking more from people that can pay to cover for the probable millions that can't, so they then hold onto this over payment from the people that can, while they recoup the money from the folks that can't, i hope this makes sense. I can see loads of people over paying for energy over the winter and into next year, then having one hell of a time trying to claim it back.

    Just a thought.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jac Hawk View Post
    so i'm in a 2 bed detached, it has a lounge, kitchen, bathroom and a basement, the wall and loft are insulated and i have a reasonably new boiler, my house isn't huge by any stretch of the imagination, but Shell energy recon i need to pay £340 a month, daylight robbery, they also say my smart meter has stopped sending them info which is strange as it seems to be working fine.

    my thinking is they are asking more from people that can pay to cover for the probable millions that can't, so they then hold onto this over payment from the people that can, while they recoup the money from the folks that can't, i hope this makes sense. I can see loads of people over paying for energy over the winter and into next year, then having one hell of a time trying to claim it back.

    Just a thought.
    i'd be sending in meter readings every month. im an end terrace with same insulation/size etc. end august to end sept was used 124£. im paying 150..and have a decent sized credit, plus im getting 66 added from govt each month thankfully as with gas being used it will go up substantially.. just checking and they reckon i will be using 300 a month soon... i hope not.
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    Mike unfortunately I think there is probable truth in this.

    We pay monthly for what we use. I haven't worked out the figures for the rises but we use the minimum equipment, LED lamps and one fridge freezer.
    The house is well insulated, we chose triple glazing when we had new windows but I am certainly not paying a fixed figure every month where the energy company profits from it.
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    I'm in a 1930s semi, good windows, modern combi boiler etc. 2 adults, 1child, 1 vathroom, 1 fridge, gas cooker.
    I'm struggling to understand the disparity in costs between similar families. My hifi is the one thing I have different from my work colleagues. They're all paying around 250 a month.
    Oh, also...I have a 15 yr old Panasonic 37" plasma TV which I'm told uses a lot of power?

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    plasma will use about 200watts; maybe more as its old.. they are several times worse than leds. often 30's semis are bigger rooms with higher celings; my mums 30's house took a lot of heating compared to place im in now. it will all add up but i think they may be over estimating your use. depends on old historical use i'd think.
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    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    There's nothing remarkable about it. All one has to do is hit the right keys at the right time and the instrument plays itself. -- Johann Sebastian Bach.

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”

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    it's weird for a country (UK) that has an abundance of North Sea gas we are paying much more than our neighbouring EU countries some of which (Germany) don't have gas as a natural resource and have historically bought much of this from Russia.

    i can't help feeling that we are being taken for mugs


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jac Hawk View Post
    it's weird for a country (UK) that has an abundance of North Sea gas we are paying much more than our neighbouring EU countries some of which (Germany) don't have gas as a natural resource and have historically bought much of this from Russia.

    i can't help feeling that we are being taken for mugs
    govt sell it to make money..but not to home users.. some of it goes to gasprom, or was; dunno if it still does.
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
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    **I’ve studied deeply in the philosophies and religions, but cheerfulness kept breaking through**

    **Hate makes you impotent, Love makes you crazy. Somewhere in the middle you can survive.**

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy.”

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    There's nothing remarkable about it. All one has to do is hit the right keys at the right time and the instrument plays itself. -- Johann Sebastian Bach.

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”

    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

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