MOFI

[Pigmy Pony]

Your going to be working for a long time yet then.

Oh yes, I fully expect to peg it while at work. I'll just fall off a ladder one day and that'll be the story of me. Perhaps my nm MFSL copy of Allmann Brothers "Eat a Peach" will buy a few vol au vents at my funeral

[struth]

Oh yes, I fully expect to peg it while at work. I'll just fall off a ladder one day and that'll be the story of me. Perhaps my nm MFSL copy of Allmann Brothers "Eat a Peach" will buy a few vol au vents at my funeral

what makes you think your getting a funeral??

sure your pretty savvy on a ladder steve.

[Pigmy Pony]

what makes you think your getting a funeral??

sure your pretty savvy on a ladder steve.

I have fallen off a couple of times, but fortunately I'm good at landing. Like a cat, me Though I didn't mean that falling off would bring about my demise, the other way round actually. Like Arthur (my budgie) did at the ripe old age of 16

[Qwin]

It's quite funny that people assumed that Mo-Fi were running fragile and valuable analogue master tapes repeatedly in order to make stampers.

You missed a few processes out Martin

They don't make the negative stampers from the tapes, they make them from positive metal Mothers, which in tern were made from a single negative metal master, which was made from the original positive wax/lacquer cut from the master tape.

The positive records are made from the negative stampers and as these wear out after about 100k pressings, they make new stampers from the positive metal mother stored at the plant.

They only go back to the tapes if the archived metal negative master is lost or damaged. This is necessary because the cut wax/lacquer is lost in the process of making the negative metal master.

If they do a remastered/remixed version then they would also go back to the original tapes of course, but only to produce a negative metal master.

It really surprised me, how many positive to negative to positive processes are involved and that such high fidelity comes out of the end product.

[Macca]

You missed a few processes out Martin

They don't make the negative stampers from the tapes, they make them from positive metal Mothers, which in tern were made from a single negative metal master, which was made from the original positive wax/lacquer cut from the master tape.

The positive records are made from the negative stampers and as these wear out after about 100k pressings, they make new stampers from the positive metal mother stored at the plant.

They only go back to the tapes if the archived metal negative master is lost or damaged. This is necessary because the cut wax/lacquer is lost in the process of making the negative metal master.

If they do a remastered/remixed version then they would also go back to the original tapes of course, but only to produce a negative metal master.

It really surprised me, how many positive to negative to positive processes are involved and that such high fidelity comes out of the end product.

Ah okay. I was under the impression that the stamper did not last forever, is that not the case? If it did then surely that would effectively be the master at least for a vinyl pressing?

[Qwin]

No the (negative) stampers wear out and need replacing after approx 100k pressings.
The new stampers are made from the (positive) metal mother stored at the plant, which in tern is made from the (negative) metal master which is usually archived.

New or additional mothers, are made from the metal master if the original was damaged in the process of making new stampers, or if demand went up and additional plants were used and given their own mother.

In reality many pressing plants did/do not handle the making of Master/Mother/Stamper and this was/is handled by a specialist company, as it involves many electro plating techniques. They would just send new stampers to the pressing plant as they were requested.

[Swann36]

It’s great to get a different perspective on here from some other forums , I only have 1 Mofi Bill Withers live at Carnegie Hall, which does sound great to my ears.

Having said that I think the issue at hand is the Mofi marketing on my 2014 album cover it says “Original Master Recording” and “ultra analog” on each label, of course words can mean anything but the implication given by those words is or rather was clear in my mind, so for me it’s about trusting the company and it seems to many that they have broken that trust

[Firebottle]

'Ultra Analogue' could be twisted to mean anything.

Could it be you need 3 ears to gain full benefit? I jest but just what does it imply?

[struth]

https://mofi.com/pages/technologies

info on their processes, which show digital is used at some points.

[walpurgis]

'Ultra Analogue' could be twisted to mean anything.

Could it be you need 3 ears to gain full benefit? I jest but just what does it imply?

Either something is in analogue form or it isn't, I don't see how there can be various interpretations of analogue.