pre built in phono stage vs external phono stage

[Lawrence001]

Equally some more vinyl oriented makers put decent ones in eg. Rega and they can sometimes be switchable MM/MC, or MC by request.

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[Barry]

Equally some more vinyl oriented makers put decent ones in eg. Rega and they can sometimes be switchable MM/MC, or MC by request.

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Yes, I would expect those manufacturers of both turntables and amplifiers to do a good job with phonostages. I was referring to those manufacturers who only produce TTs and use a third-party phonostage, largely as an afterthought.

[SiT4]

Surely this depends on the 'quality' of the phono stage and not whether it is built in ? You can get a very cheap integrated which has a crappy built in stage or an EAR 912 ! they are both integrated stages but vastly different in the quality.

[walpurgis]

Surely this depends on the 'quality' of the phono stage and not whether it is built in ? You can get a very cheap integrated which has a crappy built in stage or an EAR 912 ! they are both integrated stages but vastly different in the quality.

Yes. You tend to get what you pay for. I don't think being built in or separate has much relevance in quality terms. Built in can be convenient, but less versatile, as it can be nice to hang onto a decent separate phono stage when upgrading amplifiers.

[Macca]

If it's separate then it will have its own power supply instead of sharing the one in the amplifier. That can make a difference especially for noise.

Depends how serious you are about using vinyl.

Having said that there are a lot of quite pricey separate stages which are no better than the one you get in a decent integrated amp or a pre-amplifier. Buyer beware.