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  1. #31
    Join Date: Aug 2009

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    I'm Martin.

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    Yes, or one of the big bangers from the 1990s. Celestion A3, KEF Reference Model 4, something like that.

    Would be a big upgrade to the system.

    Not sure what availability is like in Estonia though.
    Current Lash Up:

    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.

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    I'm Lawrence.

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    I'd agree with Martin having owned both in the past.

  3. #33
    Join Date: Sep 2018

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    I'm Veiko.

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    Hello!

    So I am comparing speakers and amps and had the working theory
    about a particular system lacking mid-range-volume and therefore
    being unable to represent certain music with much satisfaction.

    I tried different variations and finally decided to put the room-factor
    to the test, having two different systems to play at the same exact spot.

    First of them is a system in question - B&W 603, Edge A2-300 monoblocks,
    Topping Pre90, Denafrips Ares II, iFi Zen Stream
    The second is - Estonia 35 AC, Onkyo A9130 integrated, Denafrips Ares II.

    two ways.jpg

    "Estonia" speakers are from the year 1986, but in good condition.
    They were bought by my father and manufactured here in Estonia by the
    company "RET", which was founded in 1935 and is well respected here.
    At 1992 after collapse of soviet union, it was rebranded "Audes",
    as in "AUDio from EStonia". Also, a chief-engineer and owner of the high-end
    company "Estelon" springed off from this company.
    There are a lot of them speakers still around here, and I think one of their
    best features is the indifference regarding placement. As in, they are very forgiving
    in regard of where you put them.

    This also became evident as I was listening them and doing AB with the B&W.
    I can not say that the second system solved the said problems, not to the extent
    that I would confirm. However I felt that B&W 603 made me constantly raise my head,
    raise my chin, to kind of "process" the sound in my head, to piece it together like
    a puzzle, I felt like the sound was not given to me straight, but I had to work and pay
    attention. Like when you are looking at a glossy photo and you have to turn it around
    so that you could see the colours well. And of course, it had the detail and crisp.

    After I removed the second system I also tweaked the speaker-position a little, brought
    them closer together, turned the right one more inwards, and moved my listening position
    a little to the left. So now when I listen to main system I dont feel puzzled no more.
    In fact, I like it very much. Listened to Cassie Kinoshi by the SEED Ensemble and loved it.

    This also got me thinking - are there really many excellent settings for hard rock?
    This question might be a red flag for some, but I start to think that some of them metal
    bands are very difficult to represent in a way that would sound captivating, or to put it
    more bluntly, audiophile-friendly. (After certain age???)
    For example Guns N Roses - I have not had a system that would play them good. And this is
    the band I have listened and loved a lot in my life, I did that as a teenager and I know
    these songs inside out. At those times of course the thought of sound quality never entered
    my head. I listened to it via very cheap gear and were happy as can be. After taking
    interest in gear I have discovered it don't sound exciting to me no more. Perhaps it needs more
    specific conditions.

    Here they are in Tallinn 2018, before covid and war
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWCYozVutwU

    Good times.

    Thanks to all that weighed in

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