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    Join Date: Dec 2018

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    I'm Dave.

    Default Waiting for my SEG 50

    Wondered if anyone has upgraded their Caimens firmware to the latest SEG 50 and what you thought?
    Mines still on SEG 30 from when I bought it at the tail end of 2019.

    Mines with Royal Fail now for 7 days and stuck in the Christmas rush, mind you their not better the rest of the year down in the Southwest.
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    Join Date: Apr 2009

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    So what is SEG 50 supposed to bring?

    ...I can't find any reference to it in the technical firmware section of Stan's site.

    Like you I still have SEG 30 firmware.
    Adam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theadmans View Post
    So what is SEG 50 supposed to bring?

    ...I can't find any reference to it in the technical firmware section of Stan's site.

    Like you I still have SEG 30 firmware.
    I tend not to go into details about the updates. I just don't want my competitors to figure out how I did certain things. But my usual guarantee still applies. If you can't hear any improvement between the 30 and the 50, a refund of the cost of the 50 is quickly sorted out.

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    Join Date: Apr 2009

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    Stan - I have a Dorado MK1 (or possibly MK2 has a blue LED) running at 16v from an adjustable Chinese Linear PSU...

    ...I think you told me that it is OK to whack up the driving PSU to 16v.

    Anyway it has been working happily like this for a couple of years...

    ...the SEG I have had a lot of your upgrades but is still runing on SEG 30 - is this a suitable candidate for upgrade to SEG 50?

    BTW the SEG gets most use driving my Sennheiser HD650 headphones.
    Last edited by Theadmans; 17-12-2021 at 16:47.
    Adam.

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    Is it worthwhile moving from 42 to 50 on my Dorado I Caiman MkII? The jump to the 42 was outstandingly musical.

    Andrew
    Andrew Randle

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    Join Date: Mar 2014

    Location: Montreal, Canada

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    I've had a SEG50/Dorado III since the end of May this year. FWIW, less sibilance and more bass, or to put it another way, had to adjust bass output on the REL's by a notch down. Using with a Cyrus CD8SE, yep, still going after all these years. Earlier this year, I installed a replacement tray motor and housing (eBay special) and internal signal cables. Many thanks to Cyrus for sending spare cables. A1 ++ service. I think I received the last of their stock. Should keep me going for a bit.

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    Join Date: Dec 2018

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewR View Post
    Is it worthwhile moving from 42 to 50 on my Dorado I Caiman MkII? The jump to the 42 was outstandingly musical.

    Andrew
    Can only say the Jump from 30 to 50 was so different to me, so my answer would be YES Andrew
    Amp Rega Elex-R
    CDP Denon DCD 520
    Tuner Teac T-R650 Dab/FM
    Music Player Pioneer N30 Network Player
    DAC Beresford SEG
    PSU Linear 15v/Baresford Dorado
    Speakers Dali Zensor 3s
    Speaker Cable Current is Rega FSC Quattro , Fisual S-Flex Studio 2.5mm / Ortofon SPK 100
    Stands Audio Visual Twin Pillar
    Interconnects Van Damme Silver Plated OFC Pro Classic XKE CDP/Tuner & Solid Silver Cyro 99.99% Pure, Dac To Amp
    Headphones AKG K550 mk3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theadmans View Post
    Stan - I have a Dorado MK1 (or possibly MK2 has a blue LED) running at 16v from an adjustable Chinese Linear PSU...

    ...I think you told me that it is OK to whack up the driving PSU to 16v.

    Anyway it has been working happilly like this for a couple of years...

    ...the SEG I have had a lot of your upgrades but is still runnng on SEG 30 - is this a suitable candidate for upgrade to SEG 50?

    BTW the SEG gets most use driving my Sennheiser HD650 headphones.
    Yes the SEG-50 works with the Dorado I and II as well.
    I have to check how many chips I still have left. There is a shortage of chips on the market that is affecting manufacturing worldwide. Prices are climbing as mad as a consequence.

  9. #9
    Join Date: Mar 2014

    Location: Montreal, Canada

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    Hi there Stan, Still have some old SEG30 chips which I kept after the last update. Can these be reprogrammed if there is ever an update from the SEG 50??

  10. #10
    Join Date: Dec 2013

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    I'm Brett.

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    I have the SEG 42-A firmware. Interested what the SEG-50 improves.

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