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  1. #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Correct.

    Top is obviously too warm, bottom one could be right except you can see the clouds above the hills in the background are better defined on the middle one, bottom is marginally 'too cold.'

    I agree that the optimal way to calibrate is to get in a bloke with a spectroradiometer to do it but it's not worth £300 to me. I would certainly do it if I was setting up a dedicated home cinema room with a projector or 200'' screen, at that level you might as well get it perfect and the cost is then is only a tiny fraction of the overall spend.
    bottom has excess blue. its up to the individual of course so its "what floats your boat". not sure how dear modern oleds are but they are out of my pay bracket. i'd quite like a bigger screen and hdr but as tv in livingroom is picture wise, spot on still, it'll do me until either i or it keels over probably me
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Yes. There's an industry standard for calibration called D65 - https://www.waveformlighting.com/col...is-it-used-for
    I expect like most standards, that will only be as good as the equipment doing the measuring, which in turn will only be as good as the calibration gear it was tested with and of course the calibration gear will have to meet measurable standards and so on .
    It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!

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    Not forgetting, if it was done on a Tuesday, during a leap year.

    Marco.
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    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

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  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Not forgetting, if it was done on a Tuesday, during a leap year.

    Marco.
    on the thighs of a virgin
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    FIIO K7 BT, M11 PLUS, BTR7, KA5 - OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - PANASONIC 4K ULTRA HD TV - PIXEL 6 - AVANTREE LR BLUETOOTH - 2* X600 SOUNDCORE - HEADPHONES INCLUDE, FIIO, NURAPHONES', FOCAL, OPPO, BOSE, CAMBRIDGE, BOWER & WILKINS, DEVIALET, MARSHALL, SONY, MITCHELL & JOHNSTON - 2*ZBOOK'S- MERCURY BD ROM, ROON, QOBUZ, TIDAL, PLEX, CYBERLINK, JRIVER - MULTI HDD'S -

    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Yes, but no-one's asking you to do it, daftee, are they, so why are you harping on about it?

    I'm talking about ME, not you. The way you're going on, it sounds like you're begrudging me from doing it, as if you think I'm daft, or have I got that wrong?

    If so, perhaps both Barry and you could simply say, 'Go for it Marco, if you want, as with your TV it makes more sense than doing it with ours', rather than instead what's coming across as being keen to piss on my parade.

    Just sayin...

    Marco.
    I'm not begrudging you anything Marco. Simply pointing out what I had done to set up my Sony using a set up video, you had done in the past to set up your Sony TV, despite them being different models.

    Where I did go wrong was to download and employ a set up application. The results were worse than what I had previously achieved, so I reset everything by eye using the advanced features in the TV's setup menu etc.

    I can well believe your new set is better than the last one and I'm sure you will have many happy hours of enjoyable viewing.
    Barry

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    No worries, Barry, and thanks. My point really was that I'd like to see less of 'what I'd do with my TV', and more simply concentrating on what benefits professional calibration could have on mine, which after all is what the thread is about

    It's about maxing out the performance of a latest technology OLED, not something else...

    Quite often these threads, although it probably happens unconsciously from those concerned, where someone suggests doing something that doesn't quite meet with the their approval, descend more into negativity about the latter, than positivity about the potential benefits of the suggestion - and I'd like to see it the other way round.

    After all, I'm not here to recommend or sell professional calibration to anyone, with their TV; simply surmise on the potential benefits I might enjoy from the process with mine

    Marco.
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    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

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    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    I used to always have my monitors professionally calibrated. The difference from stock was dramatic on video. I still have my EIZO monitor calibrated as I can't work on anything else.

    I think it's a very worthwhile thing to do on any screen. Flat or CRT. And if you are spending a lot on a bit of kit, you want it to perform at its best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Adder View Post
    I used to always have my monitors professionally calibrated. The difference from stock was dramatic on video. I still have my EIZO monitor calibrated as I can't work on anything else.

    I think it's a very worthwhile thing to do on any screen. Flat or CRT. And if you are spending a lot on a bit of kit, you want it to perform at its best.
    Exactly so, Jo, especially the last bit, and it's obvious some are more passionate about that than others.

    I think you and I (and Gaz) are similar in that respect, in that the things that we own, love and value most (animate objects aside, lol), we WANT to extract the absolute maximum from, and I'm as passionate about doing that with my TV, as with any aspect of my hi-fi system, house or car!

    Average or 'adequate' is *never* enough; only AWESOME will do!!

    Marco.
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    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    We're just back from visiting friends, They were watching footy on a 55" screen, Boy are they big - too big for me!
    Barry

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    First time I've had the chance to sit down and watch a 4K Blu-ray since I've had the TV, so I stuck on 1916, in Dolby Vision, and it's a different world!

    I reckon it's about as three-dimensional as 2D can get! Images are just 'alive' in front of you, and the 'sheen' and texture of colours that react so strikingly to how OLED screens process light, is nothing short of breathtaking!

    This truly is an altogether different level of picture quality, but it's not (yet) possible with 4K broadcast material. As impressive as the latter is, and it is impressive, Dolby Vision is something else...

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


    Protect your HUMAN RIGHTS and REFUSE ANY *MANDATORY* VACCINE FOR COVID-19!

    Also **SAY NO** to unjust 'vaccine passports' or certificates, which are totally incompatible with a FREE society!!!


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