Sony A9 Master Series KE48A9 OLED winging its way to Marco Towers!

[Marco]

did mine years ago using an ap on my ipad via my apple tv box to tvs.. mine were hardly out at all after i had set them by eye, surprisingly. must have a good eye

Not sure that's possible mate, without the right gear, light meters, etc. It's pretty technical stuff. There's a whole area of meaningless (to a layman) gobbledygook within the Advanced Settings on my old TV, that's solely for the use of calibration engineer, never mind this new one!

Therefore, the app you used, as effective as it was, will have had its limitations.

Marco.

[Pharos]

Well, by the same token, you could say: 'I've never understood the desire for higher fidelity audio systems. I listen using a standard-fidelity system, and that is enough to hear bass, midrange and treble, etc, and follow the tune...'

So why bother with higher fidelity audio systems? I'm being somewhat flippant of course, but I trust you can see my point...

Increasing the resolution of your TV, in order to see/enjoy a 4K UHD film in all its glory (thus reproducing the source format as faithfully as possible), is as rewarding, if you're into that, as increasing the fidelity of your audio system, in order to hear a high-fidelity music recording in all it's glory (thus reproducing the source format as faithfully as possible), if you're into that.

Therefore, owning a higher resolution TV, is about seeing as MUCH of what's there (detail visually present on the screen), as clearly and realistically as possible, just the same as a higher fidelity audio system is about hearing as MUCH of what's there (musical information on the recording), as clearly and realistically as possible.

So why would you settle for SEEING less than is possible, with your choice of TV, or HEARING less than is possible, with your choice of audio system...?

For enthusiasts of either of the above, the exercise is about experiencing both SOUND and VISION in the most REALISTIC and LIFELIKE way possible, and therefore to the highest standard/resolution that the audio or visual format played is capable of delivering. That is why we own high-fidelity audio systems and high-resolution TVs, in order to enjoy both our favourite music or films to the highest sonic or visual standard - it's as simple as that.



That's fundamentally not what it's about. As I've said, the goal is simply to both SEE and HEAR as much of what's there as possible, and not settling for anything less! Certainly speaking for myself, that's where the pleasure is derived from, and why the required effort and expense to achieve it is worth it

Marco.

I think that I have alluded to most of the points you have made, and the latter hypocrisy on my part with speakers is an exploration with a kind of reticence about the endeavour, it almost being an exercise.

My TV is limited to only freeview, which probably does not warrant any better resolution, but at one time I did get HD and noticed a greater sheen on horses coats. With my newer Humax, even though HD, my station reception is crap due to geography.

[Pharos]

Nice one Marco,

OLED is steps ahead of anything else,
big fan of Sony TVs here too, from way back in the early Trinitron days.

Had my own Sony OLED calibrated,
and its well worth doing.

Its probably an LG panel thats in your telly (a good thing),
but its Sony's processing that makes it special.

Enjoy Sir.

Sonys were very highly regarded in the trinitron era, but less so later. They were criticised for having an over etched edge to things.

I'm due a complete revamp soon, and will go OLED on your recommendation, but always wondered about LG stuff.

[Marco]

I'm due a complete revamp soon, and will go OLED on your recommendation, but always wondered about LG stuff.

Yes, get a Sony if you want to see what an LG panel is capable of!

Marco.

[Marco]

I think that I have alluded to most of the points you have made, and the latter hypocrisy on my part with speakers is an exploration with a kind of reticence about the endeavour, it almost being an exercise.

My TV is limited to only freeview, which probably does not warrant any better resolution, but at one time I did get HD and noticed a greater sheen on horses coats. With my newer Humax, even though HD, my station reception is crap due to geography.

Then Dennis, especially with your revelation of the latter, forget about broadcast material (as a high-quality source) and buy yourself a 4K Blu-ray player, and some 4K discs, of films, documentaries or programmes you like (Amazon is your friend), as given your circumstances, that will be the ONLY way you'll do justice to an OLED...

Otherwise, you're wasting your time, and would be akin to fronting with your hi-fi system with a DVD player from Tesco!

Marco.

[Pharos]

You bare probably right Marco, my outlook is hampered by my past working for what was once a great broadcasting corporation when its standards were the highest. How they have plummeted!

Probably not being as wealthy as some here, my family script of living in paucity and minimal expenditure, to save on resources, continues to affect my now relatively comfortable position.

There are those that claim that any DVD player which produces the waveform with no errors will sound like any other.

[Macca]

Probably not being as wealthy as some here, my family script of living in paucity and minimal expenditure, to save on resources, continues to affect my now relatively comfortable position.
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lol me too. Have to keep reminding myself that if I need something or want something I can just go ahead and buy it. That still seems weird to me.

Although as of next year I'll be going back to the paucity.

[Pharos]

It is also the case that my 'internal algorithm' (outlook on life), is such that to me if the improved technology does not allow a greater perception of life's real issues by being higher resolution, acquiring better sound and vision becomes rather an academic exercise.

Something I said a while ago, or maybe elsewhere, was:
"If you are going to take poison, does it matter what the spoon is made of or whether or not it is clean?"
But then I do think it is Armageddon we are hurtling towards, and from recent surveys 56% of the population also had this view.

[Macca]

It is also the case that my 'internal algorithm' (outlook on life), is such that to me if the improved technology does not allow a greater perception of life's real issues by being higher resolution, acquiring better sound and vision becomes rather an academic exercise.

Something I said a while ago, or maybe elsewhere, was:
"If you are going to take poison, does it matter what the spoon is made of or whether or not it is clean?"
But then I do think it is Armageddon we are hurtling towards, and from recent surveys 56% of the population also had this view.

"I subscribe to the law of contrary public opinion... If everyone thinks one thing, then I say, bet the other way..." - Ricky Roma.

[Barry]

When I bought my Sony 4K 'Smart' telly (forced upon me as the video cassette player I was using to convert the digital signal to analogue for my ancient (1982) analogue 18" CRT st decided to stop working) I went down to my local family owned TV shop and looked around. They know me well, so allowed me to watch programmes 'off air' (rather than 'whizz bang' demonstration discs), and play with the settings.

Having chosen a Sony set, it was delivered and set up for me. I was quite happy with the results; especially impressed with details such as the glasses of water provided for newscasters and interviews - before you could not see through them, now they look just like glasses of water, complete with an image of the background.

Having been aware of calibration services, I download one off the web (can't remember exactly which one it was, but it was Sony approved) and let it do its job. Sad to say the end results were poorer than the previous setting, so I reset them myself by eye. Whether it is correct or not doesn't bother me as they are my eyes and i I am the one who looks at the TV. Admittedly my TV cost less than the ones discussed here - but I would no more pay someone £500 to set up my telly than I would to have someone come in to set up my audio system.