Big Loudspeakers

[Pigmy Pony]

You'd need the big room, ideally look in the estate agent's description for 'Ballroom.'

Perhaps I should be looking for a remote property with a large garden in a warm country with low rainfall Still wouldn't come near to ZZ Top at Castle Donington 1985. That was LOUD, the loudest outdoors I've ever heard. You'd need big money to do that.

[Pharos]

I came across this list;


The Megabucks Speaker List although it is not up to date;


$200,000 or more (13 speakers)

$100,000 or more (32 speakers)

$50,000 or more (83 speakers)

$25,000 or more (157 speakers)

$10,000 or more (275 speakers)


If anybody thinks you've spent too much money on your audio system just show them this list.


I wonder who'll be the first to cross the $2 million dollar barrier?


*MEGABUCK LIST*


California Audio Tech Yosemite-Sequoia $1,275,000

Wisdom Audio infinite Wisdom Grande $700,000

Gamut LOpera $450,000

German Physics Gaudi MK2C $360,000

Magico Ultimate $329,000

Wisdom Audio Infinite Wisdom $300,000

German Physiks Emperor C $279,000

Acapella Audio Arts Spharon Excalibur $361,000

Perfect8 Force $277,000

Marten Design Coltrane Supreme $250,000

Wisdom Audio Infinite Rush $250,000

German Physiks Lorrley C $226,000

German Physiks Loreley Mk II $200,000

Avantgarde Trio Classico w/2 Basshorns $189,000

Rockport Arrakis $165,000

Genesis Adv Tech G1.1 $165,000

Peak-Consult Emperor MK2 $160,000

Von Schweikert VR11 SE $150,000

Lyngdorf-Steinway Model D system $150,000

Cabasse Le Sphere $150,000

Westlake Tower SM-1 $146,000

Nola Grand Reference IV.1 $145,000

KEF Muon $140,000

Wilson Audio Alexandria $139,000

California Audio Tech Trinity Sequoia $130,000

German Physics PSQ 420C $130,000

Tenner & Friedl Duke $125,000

Magico Model 6 $120,000

Westlake SM-1VF $120,000

Avalon Acoustics Sentinel $115,000

Siltech Pantheon XL $110,000

Eggleston Works Ivy $100,000

MBL 101E $97,000

Audio Acoustics Sapphire TI-C SE $96,000

Wisdom Audio Rush $95,000

Rockport Hyperion $92,000

YG Acoustics Anat Reference Pro $92,000

Dynaudio Evidence Master $90,000

Symposium Acoustics Panorama $90,000

Focal Grand Utopia BE $90,000

McIntosh XRT2K $90,000

Acapella Audio Arts High Campanile $89,000

Sunny Cable H3W18 Majestic $88,000

PBN Audio Master Reference $85,000

Montana KAS2 $85,000

Von Schweikert VR10 Mk2 $85,000

Verity Lohengren II $80,000

Gamut L9 $77,000

Rockport Altair $75,000

Peak Consult El Diablo $75,000

Von Schweikert VR9 SE $75,000

Avantgarde Trio Compact w/Basshorn $72,000

Calix Signature Phoenix Grand $70,000

Burmester B-100 $70,000

Goldmund Epilogue $66,000

Audio Physic Kronos $65,000

Von Schweikert VR-7 SE $65,000

Avalon Acoustics Isis $62,000

B&W Nautilus $60,000

Marten Design Coltrane $60,000

Meridian DSP8000 $60,000

Loiminchay Mandarin Supreme $60,000

Nola Pegasus Reference Extreme $60,000

Peak Consult Emperor Mk2 $60,000

JBL DD66000 $60,000

YG Acoustics Anat Reference Studio $60,000

Montana WAS $60,000

Westlake Tower HR7 $59,000

ClaraVox Dogma $59,000

Genesis Adv Tech G201 $57,000

Sunny Cable H3W155 $56,000

Venture Excellence $56,000

Wisdom Audio M75 $55,000

Hansen Audio King $55,000

Krell LAT1000 $55,000

Siltech Pantheon X $55,000

MBL 111E $52,000

Marten Design Coltrane $50,000

Dali Megaline 3 $50,000

MBL 101E $50,000

Adam Tenor Alpha $50,000

Evolution Acoustics MM2 $50,000

California Audio Tech Malibu-Pacific $49,000

Wilson Audio MAXX 2 $45,000

Cabasse Karissma $48,000

Opera Caruso $48,000

Linn Komri $47,000

Pass Rushmore $45,000

Ascendo M-S Mk 2 $45,000

Kharma Mini Exquisite $45,000

Sonus Faber Stradivari Homage $45,000

Kinetic Audio Priority $45,000

Swans 2.2 $44,000

Legacy Audio Helix $44,000

Scaena Model 3.2 $44,000

A.R.T. Emotion Silver Signature $44,000

Linn Artikulat 350A $43,000

MBL 116 $40,000

Burmester B-80 $40,000

Dynaudio Evidence Temptation $40,000

Focal Nova Utopia Be $40,000

ESP Concert Grand SI $40,000

Peak Consult Zoltan $40,000

Nova Evolution 2 $39,000

Eggelston Works Savoy $39,000

Piega C-40 $39,000

Verity Audio Sarastro 2 $39,000

Focal Nove Utopia Be $38,000

YG Acoustics Kipod Studio $38,000

Montana EPX $37,000

Triangle Magellen $36,000

Acoustic Zen Maestro $36,000

Wisdom Audio M50 $35,000

Talon Firebird $35,000

Loiminchay Patrick.3 $35,000

Kinetic Audio Nonparaeil $35,000

Sound Lab U1PX $35,000

Snell Acoustics Illusion A7 $35,000

Avalon Acoustics Eidolon Diamond $34,000

Kharma Mini-Grand Ceramique $34,000

Von schweikert VR-7 SE $34,000

Gersham Acoustics Black Swan $33,000

Tannoy Westminster Royal $33,000

Wilson Benesch Chimera $33,000

Tetra 606 $33,000

Calix Academy Phoenix Grand $33,000

Silverline Audio Grande La Folia $32,000

Tenner & Friedl Gordon $32,000

Verastarr Epic $32,000

Wilson Audio Watt/Puppy 8 $31,000

Focus Audio Master 2 $31,000

Kinetic Audio Inclusive $30,000

Kinetic Audio Standard $30,000

JBL K2 S9800SE-DG $30,000

Peak Consult Empress $30,000

Proac Response D100 $30,000

Adam Tensor Beta $30,000

Sonus Faber Amati Anniversario $30,000

Meridiean DSP-7000 $30,000

Canton Vento Reference 1DC $30,000

Aurum Acoustics Integris Active 300B $30,000

Rockport Mira Grand $30,000

Audio Physic Caldera 30,000

Magico Mini II $30,000

ATC SCM 150 ALS $29,000

Montana XPS Signature $29,000

PBN Audio KAS $28,000

Wilson Audio Watt/Puppy 8 $28,000

Piega CL90 $28,000

YG Acoustics Anat Ref Main Module $28,000

Kharma 3.2FE Reference $28,000

MBL 111e $27,000

Sound Organization Chimera $26,000

JAS Plato $26,000

Proclaim DMT-100 $26,000

Sound Lab A1-PX $26,000

Linn Artikulat 320A $25,000

Kinetic Audio Ethereal $25,000

Burmester B-50 $25,000

Siltech Pantheon M $25,000

Magico V3 $25,000

Focus Audio Master 3 $25,000

Von Schweikert VR-5 $25,000

Fried Reference $25,000

ATC SCM 100 ALS $25,000

Kinetic Audio Trapezium $25,000

Polymer Audio Logic $25,000

Joseph Audio Pearl $24,000

Arial Acoustics 20T $24,000

NEAT Ultimatum MF9 $23,000

Meridiean DSP6000 $23,000

Sound Lab M1 $23,000

Vivid K1 $23,000

Revel Salon II $22,000

Coincident Total Reference $22,000

Sonus Faber Amati Homage $22,000

MBL 116 $22,000

Nova Rendition 2 $22,000

Usher D2 $22,000

Focus Audio Master 3 $22,000

Sonus Faber Cremona Elipsa $21,000

Kharma Ceramique Ref 3.2 $21,000

Opera Tebaldi $21,000

Inetic Audio Refined $21,000

Triangle Magellen Concerto $20,000

Peak-Consult INcognitoX $20,000

Focus Audio Master 2.5 $20,000

Loiminchay Patrick.2 $20,000

B&W 800D $20,000

Verity Audio Parsifal Ovation $20,000

Innersound Kaya Reference $20,000

Meridian DSP-5000 $20,000

KEF 207/2 $20,000

Avantgarde Uno 3.0 $19,000

Lyngdorf 2+2 active system $19,000

McIntosh XRT28 $19,000

Sound Lab A3-PX $19,000

Shahinian Acoustics Diapason $19,000

A.R.T. Emotion Signature $19,000

Escalante Designs Fremont $19,000

Focal Alto Utopia Be $19,000

Eggleston Andra II $19,000

Eben X-3 $19,000

Wilson Benesch ACT $19,000

Ayon Falcon S $18,000

B&W Signature Diamond $18,000

Avalon Acoustics Eidolon Vision $18,000

NEAT Ultimatum MF7 $18,000

Proac Response D80 $18,000

PBN Montana $18,000

Dynaudio Confidence C4 $18,000

Green Mt. Audio Continuum 3 $17,000

Vandersteen 5A $17,000

Gamut L7 $17,000

Linn Artikulat 340A $17,000

O'hEocha D2-XCT $17,000

Verity Parsifal $17,000

Silverline Audio Grandeur Mk 3 $16,000

Studio Electric Type Two $16,000

Sound Lab M2 $16,000

Auditorium 23 Rondo $16,000

Revel Ultima Studio 2 $16,000

B&W 801D $16,000

B&O BeoLab5 $16,000

Revel Ultima Studio 2 $16,000

Legacy Audio Whisper $16,000

Snell XA 2900 15,000

Audio Physic Avanti 5 $15,000

Meridian DSP-5500 $15,000

Montana XP $15,000

Sonus Faber Guarneri Memento $15,000

Jamo R909 $15,000

Talon Thunder $15,000

RBH T-30LSE $15,000

Burmester 961 $15,000

Avantgarde Nano Horn $15,000

Devore Fidelity Silverback Reference $15,000

Wilson Audio Sophia 2 $14,000

Vivid B1 $14,000

Calix Venus Phoenix Grand $14,000

Art of Sound Line Array Tower $14,000

Krell LAT2000 $14,000

Rockport Mira $14,000

Magnepan MG 20.1 $13,000

Gersham Acoustic GAP 828 $13,000

Burmester B-30 $13,000

AAD 7001 $13,000

Focal Diva Utopia Be $12,000

B&W 802D $12,000

MBL 121 $12,000

Peak-Consult Princess $12,000

Quad ESL2805 $12,000

Shahinian Acoustics Hawk $12,000

Alon Circe $12,000

Dynaudio Confidence C2 $12,000

Meadowlark Blue Heron 2 $12,000

Nola Viper Reference $12,000

Totem Shaman $12,000

Revox 3.6 Digital $12,000

Gamut L5 $2,000

Usher Dancer CP-8871 Mk1 $12,000

Vandersteen Quatro Wood $12,000

Linn Akurate $11,000

Naim SL2 $11,000

Vienna Acoustic Mahler $11,000

Arial Acoustics Model 9 $11,000

KEF Reference 205/2 $11,000

Cabasse Baltic $11,000

Harbeth Monitor 40 $11,000

Merlin VSM mx $11,000

Focal Electra 1037 Be $11,000

Meridian DSP-5200 $11,000

Martin Logan Summit $11,000

Zu Audio Definition Mk 2 $11,000

Green Mt. Audio Calypso $10,000

Montana EPX $10,000

Tannoy Kesington-Prestige $10,000

Revel Ultima Gem 2 $10,000

Final 1000i ST $10,000

Thiel CS3.7 $10,000

Opera Callas Divina $10,000

Eggleston Works Rosa $10,000

Sonus Faber Cremona $10,000

Wilson Benesch Trinity $10,000

Lyngdorf DP-1/BW-1 $9,400

Quad ESL-2805 $9,000

Quad ESL-989 $9,000

Diminishing returns surely, and I doubt that the studios spend that much.
I believe that Abbey Rd has just converted to B&W 803Ds

[Haselsh1]

I'd have to climb over that lot just to get into the room. They'd look more like massive headphones.

[Marco]

lol yes they really are a 'Come round and have a look at my new loudspeakers' loudspeaker.

Not sure what to say, TBH, other than... Utterly hideous!!

The complete antithesis of not only what I think great loudspeakers are about, but hi-fi in general

And what does the tit look like standing there in his face mask?

Anyway, an interesting thread starter

Marco.

[Macca]

Not sure what to say, TBH, other than... Utterly hideous!!

The complete antithesis of not only what I think great loudspeakers are about, but hi-fi in general

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appearance-wise they are certainly 'function over form' I agree, can't say that it would be a deal-breaker for me though. I don't understand your comment about them being the 'antithesis of great hi-fi' though? I suspect they are at least pretty good, probably very good.

I've no idea why he thought it necessary to wear his mask for the photo either, maybe he just likes it?

[Marco]

appearance-wise they are certainly 'function over form' I agree, can't say that it would be a deal-breaker for me though. I don't understand your comment about them being the 'antithesis of great hi-fi' though? I suspect they are at least pretty good, probably very good.

I've no idea why he thought it necessary to wear his mask for the photo either, maybe he just likes it?

Ok, with the given understanding of the usual caveat of 'each to his or own', firstly I'm not a big fan of tall (slim-ish) multiple-driver speakers [you know my preferred tastes in that respect - give me a fat-assed, wide-baffle every day, with a 15-incher, or two, tucked behind it], and I hate black speakers. I like natural-wood colours, or in the case of my Lockies, quality Formica!

Secondly, and to pick up on your point, as you also know, I'm an 'SPPV' guy [first and foremost, any loudspeakers or piece of hi-fi equipment should offer High Sound-Per-Pound Value] and also, from my own perspective, be a 'giant killer' [i.e. punch WELL above its weight, sonically, for its cost].

Therefore 'HPHIFI' [House Price Hi-Fi] is an affront to my sensibilities, and the antithesis of what I believe hi-fi should be about: catering for and servicing the needs of ENTHUSIASTS, not 'key janglers' with more money than sense, which is mostly who these sorts of products are aimed at!

Lastly, I've heard a couple of examples of Magico speakers, admittedly further down the range, at Cranage Hall hi-fi show, and was distinctly nonplussed, sounding much more like hi-fi than music, which TBH are my feelings about 90% of the loudspeakers made today. Therefore, if I suddenly became a crass idiot overnight, with more money than sense, those would probably be the LAST speakers on earth I'd buy (for all reasons given)!!

Will that do?

Marco.

P.S and the wearing of a mask (presumably indoors in his house), just reiterates the fact that he's an ARSE!

[walpurgis]

Not too keen on the 'industrial incinerator, school of styling myself.

[Marco]

Indeed...MAJOR SPEW

Marco.

P.S See my post in the mod room

[Pharos]

There's nothing like poking a hornet's nest.

To me they are ugly, and what about WAF. I also question that tweeter, lost in so much other driver area, 1" domes have distinct limitations, and I assume that they go loud which may strain the tweeter's limits.

I agree about value Marco, and if we draw a linear graph approximating expense, y axis, and sound quality, x axis, I look for an anomalously placed plot above the line.

At this price point I doubt that buyers analyse much, and take it as read that they perform well, and if they were bad it would be obvious.

I also do not like black speakers, but life is full of compromises.

There is also something obscene about the really expensive stuff given world problems.

[Macca]

Ok, with the given understanding of the usual caveat of 'each to his or own', firstly I'm not a big fan of tall (slim-ish) multiple-driver speakers [you know my preferred tastes in that respect - give me a fat-assed, wide-baffle every day, with a 15-incher, or two, tucked behind it], and I hate black speakers. I like natural-wood colours, or in the case of my Lockies, quality Formica!

Secondly, and to pick up on your point, as you also know, I'm an 'SPPV' guy [first and foremost, any loudspeakers or piece of hi-fi equipment should offer High Sound-Per-Pound Value] and also, from my own perspective, be a 'giant killer' [i.e. punch WELL above its weight, sonically, for its cost].

Therefore 'HPHFI' [House Price Hi-Fi] is an affront to my sensibilities, and the antithesis of what I believe hi-fi should be about: catering for and servicing the needs of ENTHUSIASTS, not 'key janglers' with more money than sense, which is mostly who these sorts of products are aimed at!

Lastly, I've heard a couple of examples of Magico speakers, admittedly further down the range, at Cranage Hall hi-fi show, and was distinctly nonplussed, sounding much more like hi-fi than music, which TBH are my feelings about 90% of the loudspeakers made today. Therefore, if I suddenly became a crass idiot overnight, with more money than sense, those would probably be the LAST speakers on earth I'd buy (for all reasons given)!!

Will that do?

Marco.

P.S and the wearing of a mask (presumably indoors in his house), just reiterates the fact that he's an ARSE!

well I agree with you on the 'value for money' bit which is why I said in the o/p that I agreed with the bloke I quoted that you could do better for less (well a bit less anyway) at least theoretically by having a customised room and soffit-mounted drivers.

I don't really care what the equipment looks like, there's only a few bits of equipment where the looks put me off enough that I wouldn't even consider it regardless of how good it is, Vivid Audio Gaya speakers as an example. https://vividaudio.com/giya/giya-g2-series-2/

Yeah the Magicos are not 'pretty' but I think they look purposeful rather than ugly. They not likely to clear WAF but then at that price level they are going to be in a dedicated room, not the living room so not like they will spoil the decor.

That's two fifteens a side btw so your need for fifteens is catered for in spades

I don't recall hearing any Magicos at Cranage. Either I missed the room or they were not there the couple of times I've been. I don't recall ever hearing any anywhere.