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  1. #61
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    i would say there is no comparison of a disco to a proper duel direction vacuum machine imo. (using a good fluid)
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    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

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  2. #62
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    I’m sure you’re right, but for me it was the difference between around £50 and £400 upwards!

  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Neds View Post
    I’m sure you’re right, but for me it was the difference between around £50 and £400 upwards!
    indeed, prices are fairly high; probably higher than they should be as its just a hoover and a platter motor.. the second hand buys are probably what to look for. i just sold a minty moth for 200.
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    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Neds View Post
    Not sure Bulty, but I think you’re confusing a Disco Antistat machine with an antistatic brush? I’m sorry Marco, but they’re not “ dreadful things”, they actually work very well as many will attest. Many new pressings seem to be somewhat crap, which is why I’m glad that I’ve got enough vinyl to not need to buy them!
    No problem, each to his or her own and experience in using them. I stand by my view, based on my experience and comparing the 'Antistat' with an RCM.

    When I used one, all it did was move the removed dirt from one area of the record to another, simply because it's got nowhere else to go but trap itself inside the grooves at the point where the fluid rests, and on playback the noise is transferred there accordingly (usually at the edges where records have been left to 'drip dry' on the supplied rack).

    And the longer the debris lies there, it solidifies and then becomes even more of a problem...

    Whilst these devices can be effective to a degree (depending on the nature of how dirty records are to start with), you simply can't escape from the fact that a vacuum is needed to suck the dirt out of the grooves once records have been cleaned, and which is the ONLY way to achieve truly clean records.

    Therefore, if you've spent at least a grand on a decent T/T and have at least a couple of hundred records (hopefully more), then you owe it to yourself to buy an RCM, and as Grant says it doesn't need to be new, there are some great second-hand buys around at a fraction of the price!

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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Neds View Post
    I’m sure you’re right, but for me it was the difference between around £50 and £400 upwards!
    How much did you pay for your turntable arm/cartridge and phono stage in total, and how many records do you have?

    A list of your full system would also be useful.

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


    Protect your HUMAN RIGHTS and REFUSE ANY *MANDATORY* VACCINE FOR COVID-19!

    Also **SAY NO** to unjust 'vaccine passports' or certificates, which are totally incompatible with a FREE society!!!


  6. #66
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    Well I will buy an RCM soon as I have decided I definitely keeping the vinyl. So I'm having a clear out of the ones I don't want so I can focus more on ones to buy that I will play. I'm sure the disco just moves it around as stated here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BultyBoy View Post
    Well I will buy an RCM soon as I have decided I definitely keeping the vinyl. So I'm having a clear out of the ones I don't want so I can focus more on ones to buy that I will play. I'm sure the disco just moves it around as stated here.
    One of the best investments I ever made was to get an RCM then had a big purge on the vinyl.
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