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    Quote Originally Posted by Filterlab View Post

    Forums are bizarre.
    Can't disagree with you there!

    The RME does have an incredible array of features especially for the price, and it looks cool as f***. I very much doubt anyone would be less than thrilled with the sound (from what others report as I haven't actually heard one). The room correction/parametric EQ features are not something found in many (any?) other DAC's either. It's got a lot of strings to its bow. Like I said before though, my personal goal was max sound quality for the budget (around 500) and the Soncoz hit a home run there.
    System 1: - Amp - Musical Paradise MP-701 - Neurochrome 686
    - Source: Linn LP12 (AT-OC9XEN) - D-Klimo LAR copy - Novafidelity X12 - Soncoz SGD1 -
    - Speakers: Cambridge Acoustic "Grand Master Evolution" - (Quads are in repair!) Subs: - REL T3's -

    System 2 - Amp: Musical Paradise MP 303 - Custom Pre -
    - Source: Audio Technica LP5 - EAR834p clone - Pioneer N-30K - Topping E30 -
    - Speakers: Loth X BS1's - Sub: REL T3 -

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    Hi Rob, to be fair I made that point myself. It 's the way my mind works that if there's a price difference surely it must be justified somehow, particularly when we're looking at one product being twice the price of the other. Anyway,old ground, China v Germany etc.
    Mark Levinson 390 CD & Audiolab 6000 CD Transport / Soncoz SGD1 DAC / Croft 25RS Preamp / Croft 7R mono Amps / Neat Ultimatum XLS Speakers

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    With thanks for all the input, I've just ordered the Audiolab 6000CDT and Soncoz SDG1 DAC.
    Apparently the DAC's in the middle of an unnamed ocean, hopefully in watertight wrapping, so not sure when it'll be with me.
    I'll be sure to post the result of swapping out the Oppo.

    Excited........
    Mark Levinson 390 CD & Audiolab 6000 CD Transport / Soncoz SGD1 DAC / Croft 25RS Preamp / Croft 7R mono Amps / Neat Ultimatum XLS Speakers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stranraer View Post
    With thanks for all the input, I've just ordered the Audiolab 6000CDT and Soncoz SDG1 DAC.
    Apparently the DAC's in the middle of an unnamed ocean, hopefully in watertight wrapping, so not sure when it'll be with me.
    I'll be sure to post the result of swapping out the Oppo.

    Excited........
    Nice, I've had my Soncoz a few weeks now and I'm really enjoying it. One of those bits of kit which stops you looking at other kit (at least for a while . . . ).

    Hard to imagine digital decoding being done much better, although I'm sure it can be. BUT, not for anywhere near my price range.
    System 1: - Amp - Musical Paradise MP-701 - Neurochrome 686
    - Source: Linn LP12 (AT-OC9XEN) - D-Klimo LAR copy - Novafidelity X12 - Soncoz SGD1 -
    - Speakers: Cambridge Acoustic "Grand Master Evolution" - (Quads are in repair!) Subs: - REL T3's -

    System 2 - Amp: Musical Paradise MP 303 - Custom Pre -
    - Source: Audio Technica LP5 - EAR834p clone - Pioneer N-30K - Topping E30 -
    - Speakers: Loth X BS1's - Sub: REL T3 -

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    My RME DAC arrived this morning. Initial impressions: The case looks little DIY on the top; I like the front panel. Wow! What a host of features!

    It's taken me a few hours of fiddling with the (somewhat non-intuitive) buttons and knobs to get to where I wanted. I've yet to adjust the individual settings for the headphones. The manual is a translation from the German and isn't the easiest manual I've ever read.

    However, it's SQ that matters eh? So far I'm impressed. I won't go into 'audiophile sophistry' but it seem to have better clarity and instrument spacing. I'm comparing this to an excellent Beresford SEG + Dorado 1 (soon to be sold I hope). The SEG has the advantage of an extra optical input. However, it's bettered (to my ears and expectation bias) by the RME. Is the RME worth 4x the price. NO (in the sense that there's not a 4x subjective improvement).

    Buying the RME also means I can sell my Schiit pre-amp and a headphone amp. So the difference in price (cf the SEG & RME) isn't as great as it first seems.

    So, if you need a great DAC, preamp and headphone amp all in one (with a plethora of adjustments (inc -'loudness' (don't laugh)) then I can recommend the RME.

    Edit: I should have mentioned that the biggest jump -to my ears- in SQ was the jump to using my MacBookPro to the DAC using USB, (this was both for the SEG and RME) rather than Airplay/Squeezebox Touch etc.

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    Good to hear your itch has been scratched, for now at least.
    By coincidence my Audiolab CDT arrived today. Unfortunately Captain Pugwash is still riding the high seas with me Soncoz.
    Mark Levinson 390 CD & Audiolab 6000 CD Transport / Soncoz SGD1 DAC / Croft 25RS Preamp / Croft 7R mono Amps / Neat Ultimatum XLS Speakers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stranraer View Post
    Good to hear your itch has been scratched, for now at least.
    By coincidence my Audiolab CDT arrived today. Unfortunately Captain Pugwash is still riding the high seas with me Soncoz.
    The itchy bit has healed. I can't see myself buying another DAC. After a certain point (?) all relatively high-end DACs sound the same - and you're just paying extra for the 'extras'.
    My Gear:
    Source component/s:
    Cambridge CXC Cd player; Inspire Apollo deck + Roksan Nima arm + AT-33PTG; Denon TU-580RD tuner; Logitech Squeezebox Touch. Rpi + also Digione, (with Mo0de). RPi + Allo Boss+ Isolator (with Volumio)
    Amplification: WD KEL84+ valve amp; Rega Brio, Quad 306 (DADA modded, with Schiit Saga 1 Preamp)). Trichord Dino2 & Dino+ PS; .

    Loudspeakers:
    Living Voice auditorium IBX-R2.
    Q Acoustics 2010 in the 'study'.

    Cables/stands: Chords; Van Dammes 4mm

    Any other hi-fi bits:
    Beresford SEG DAC; Apple's airport express; Apple iMac i5; Senn HD598, 467, Beresford Bushmaster.
    Linear PSs for Rpi and DAC. Pure mains conditioning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonky View Post
    The itchy bit has healed. I can't see myself buying another DAC. After a certain point (?) all relatively high-end DACs sound the same - and you're just paying extra for the 'extras'.
    Agreed. I had a wobble over the RME but knew deep down that I wouldn't have the patience to experiment with sound correction and with that out of the equation I'm thinking the Soncoz should be up to the job required.
    And to think this only started because I wanted to remotely control volume levels, which my Croft pre doesn't do.
    Now I'm thinking about it I wonder if the Dac element of the Soncoz will control the volume or am I running the Soncoz as a preamp into the Croft preamp.
    Starting to sound complicated.........
    Mark Levinson 390 CD & Audiolab 6000 CD Transport / Soncoz SGD1 DAC / Croft 25RS Preamp / Croft 7R mono Amps / Neat Ultimatum XLS Speakers

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    Just try both see which you prefer.

    I found it varied depending on the power amp.
    Current Lash Up:

    *Audiolab 6000CDT* Topping E30 * Philips 22AH380 pre-amp * NAD C320BEE power amp * JM Lab Electra 926 *

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Just try both see which you prefer.

    I found it varied depending on the power amp.
    If the Soncoz is a better sound than the Croft as a preamp replacement I'm gonna cry.
    Mark Levinson 390 CD & Audiolab 6000 CD Transport / Soncoz SGD1 DAC / Croft 25RS Preamp / Croft 7R mono Amps / Neat Ultimatum XLS Speakers

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