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  1. #1
    Join Date: Apr 2016

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    Default Looking for bass amplifier recommendations

    Hi

    I am powering the 15inch drivers on my open baffles with their own dedicated amplifier at frequencies below 200hz. They are Altec 416B 8 ohm 65 year old vintage drivers, which are very rare and therefore currently reach about £1000 a pair. Being very sensitive they are designed to only tolerate a maximum of 35 watts.

    I had a very unhappy experience, by mistake, feeding similarly sensitive Saba Greencones with 1000watts of power and launching the paper cones into orbit with an explosion and a shower of sparks.

    So you can understand why I am nervous to connect overpowered amps to the Altecs.

    Bottom line is, I would like a lowish powered amp that delivers the best solid and articulate bass. Any suggestion valve or solid state. Used equipment is fine.
    Last edited by bumpy; 07-02-2021 at 15:55.
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    SW1X Universal Music Server UMS I Signature with Power Supply Unit PSU I Signature
    SW1X USB II
    SW1X DAC III Special
    Audiolab 6000 CDT transport
    Amps
    Pre amps -- Hi fi Collective twin mono ladder stepped attenuator, with Charcroft Z-foil and silver wired. And First Watt B1 active no gain buffer.
    Power amps -- Welborne 45 SET monoblocks 1.8W / Decware Taboo 6W / Elekit 300B TU-8600SVK plus further improved components 9W / ICE Power 1000W
    Speakers
    Highly modified Endorphin P17 open baffle speakers containing both vintage and modern alnico drivers and paper cones. All silver wired - 8" Cube Audio FC8 full range drivers and vintage 15" Altec VOTT 416 bass drivers. All sat on Townsend Audio Podium seismic isolation platforms.
    BK Electronics XLS400FF Sub.
    Cabling
    Silver mains cables, interconnects and speaker cables by SW1X
    Headphones
    HRT HeadStreamer and SennHeiser HD650 headphones

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    What about one of those little chip amps that only make about 10 watts or so? They are cheap as chips if you pardon the pun, so not much lost if it doesn't work out.

    Shame you are not close to me - I have an Audion Silver Night 300b stereo, which outputs 7W per channel. It's not doing anything at the mo, so you'd be welcome to borrow it and see how that sort of thing fares.
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    Join Date: Apr 2016

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    Thanks PP. Most valve amps I have used generally struggle with low bass requiring expensive or very heavyweight output transformers, but I am always interested to hear others experience. Damping factor also seems important when controlling a big driver.
    Source
    SW1X Universal Music Server UMS I Signature with Power Supply Unit PSU I Signature
    SW1X USB II
    SW1X DAC III Special
    Audiolab 6000 CDT transport
    Amps
    Pre amps -- Hi fi Collective twin mono ladder stepped attenuator, with Charcroft Z-foil and silver wired. And First Watt B1 active no gain buffer.
    Power amps -- Welborne 45 SET monoblocks 1.8W / Decware Taboo 6W / Elekit 300B TU-8600SVK plus further improved components 9W / ICE Power 1000W
    Speakers
    Highly modified Endorphin P17 open baffle speakers containing both vintage and modern alnico drivers and paper cones. All silver wired - 8" Cube Audio FC8 full range drivers and vintage 15" Altec VOTT 416 bass drivers. All sat on Townsend Audio Podium seismic isolation platforms.
    BK Electronics XLS400FF Sub.
    Cabling
    Silver mains cables, interconnects and speaker cables by SW1X
    Headphones
    HRT HeadStreamer and SennHeiser HD650 headphones

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    What you don't want is to have too little power, and run the amp near its limits consistently. That may cause the amp to overheat, fail, and destroy the voice coils. Bass below 200hz uses more power than the rest of the frequency spectrum combined. That said you will probably be fine with 35 to 50 watts unless you like disco levels.
    I would also look for something with a reputation for rock sold reliability, and possibly has good DC offset protection.
    A Bryston 2BLP comes to mind. Old design, and may need some work, but inexpensive, reliable and about the right power.

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    The Crown PA range of ClassD amps have had good reviews from the "Audiophile" community and they do a range of power outputs at different prices.

    https://www.thomann.de/gb/crown_power_amplifiers.html
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    I have a Parasound Z amp v2 IIRC 30 watts/channel, gain control on rear, auto switch on.

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  7. #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puffin View Post
    The Crown PA range of ClassD amps have had good reviews from the "Audiophile" community and they do a range of power outputs at different prices.

    https://www.thomann.de/gb/crown_power_amplifiers.html
    Nice amp, but unfortunately most of those approach too high output.
    Source
    SW1X Universal Music Server UMS I Signature with Power Supply Unit PSU I Signature
    SW1X USB II
    SW1X DAC III Special
    Audiolab 6000 CDT transport
    Amps
    Pre amps -- Hi fi Collective twin mono ladder stepped attenuator, with Charcroft Z-foil and silver wired. And First Watt B1 active no gain buffer.
    Power amps -- Welborne 45 SET monoblocks 1.8W / Decware Taboo 6W / Elekit 300B TU-8600SVK plus further improved components 9W / ICE Power 1000W
    Speakers
    Highly modified Endorphin P17 open baffle speakers containing both vintage and modern alnico drivers and paper cones. All silver wired - 8" Cube Audio FC8 full range drivers and vintage 15" Altec VOTT 416 bass drivers. All sat on Townsend Audio Podium seismic isolation platforms.
    BK Electronics XLS400FF Sub.
    Cabling
    Silver mains cables, interconnects and speaker cables by SW1X
    Headphones
    HRT HeadStreamer and SennHeiser HD650 headphones

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    What you don't want is to have too little power, and run the amp near its limits consistently. That may cause the amp to overheat, fail, and destroy the voice coils. Bass below 200hz uses more power than the rest of the frequency spectrum combined. That said you will probably be fine with 35 to 50 watts unless you like disco levels.
    I would also look for something with a reputation for rock sold reliability, and possibly has good DC offset protection.
    A Bryston 2BLP comes to mind. Old design, and may need some work, but inexpensive, reliable and about the right power.
    These Bryston amps look very interesting but are not very plentiful in the UK. A used version of the 2BLP is currently just under a grand - not so inexpensive here. I read they come with a 20 year guarantee.
    Source
    SW1X Universal Music Server UMS I Signature with Power Supply Unit PSU I Signature
    SW1X USB II
    SW1X DAC III Special
    Audiolab 6000 CDT transport
    Amps
    Pre amps -- Hi fi Collective twin mono ladder stepped attenuator, with Charcroft Z-foil and silver wired. And First Watt B1 active no gain buffer.
    Power amps -- Welborne 45 SET monoblocks 1.8W / Decware Taboo 6W / Elekit 300B TU-8600SVK plus further improved components 9W / ICE Power 1000W
    Speakers
    Highly modified Endorphin P17 open baffle speakers containing both vintage and modern alnico drivers and paper cones. All silver wired - 8" Cube Audio FC8 full range drivers and vintage 15" Altec VOTT 416 bass drivers. All sat on Townsend Audio Podium seismic isolation platforms.
    BK Electronics XLS400FF Sub.
    Cabling
    Silver mains cables, interconnects and speaker cables by SW1X
    Headphones
    HRT HeadStreamer and SennHeiser HD650 headphones

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    How do others feel about valve amps dedicated to low frequencies, My experience with SETs is that this is not their best territory, but what about tetrodes, pentodes, push, pull, parallel etc etc?
    Source
    SW1X Universal Music Server UMS I Signature with Power Supply Unit PSU I Signature
    SW1X USB II
    SW1X DAC III Special
    Audiolab 6000 CDT transport
    Amps
    Pre amps -- Hi fi Collective twin mono ladder stepped attenuator, with Charcroft Z-foil and silver wired. And First Watt B1 active no gain buffer.
    Power amps -- Welborne 45 SET monoblocks 1.8W / Decware Taboo 6W / Elekit 300B TU-8600SVK plus further improved components 9W / ICE Power 1000W
    Speakers
    Highly modified Endorphin P17 open baffle speakers containing both vintage and modern alnico drivers and paper cones. All silver wired - 8" Cube Audio FC8 full range drivers and vintage 15" Altec VOTT 416 bass drivers. All sat on Townsend Audio Podium seismic isolation platforms.
    BK Electronics XLS400FF Sub.
    Cabling
    Silver mains cables, interconnects and speaker cables by SW1X
    Headphones
    HRT HeadStreamer and SennHeiser HD650 headphones

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    A chip amp would be a good choice. High damping factor so well suited for this application. I use a 3000w DSP Behringer to drive the 18” bass cones on my Bastanis.
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