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    Hi all, I hope the following might be of interest as today I've found significant improvement in sound quality at zero cost, and by accident.
    As a non techie type it's taken me seven years to discover that my Oppo CD/DVD player has a variable volume option, and I thought I'd try it out as my Croft preamp is sans remote control. Getting off the sofa to turn volume up and down, particularly with twin pots, can be a bit of a drag after a couple of glasses of Rioja. First World problem, I know.

    I'm in a small terraced house and get on well with my neighbours so we have a compromise where they let me know if they're out for the evening leaving me free to cane the hifi guilt free, otherwise the Croft volume knobs stay at 3 O'Clock max.

    Tonight, I'm controlling volume via the Oppo and the preamp is fixed at 7 O'clock. The transformation is significant. Separation, detail, tighter bass. I'm guessing this is because there's more juice flowing through the Croft.

    I'm listening to the same CDs I played last night, 70s funk n soul, guitar rock and electronic dance and all are enhanced.
    Enjoy your evening, mine's going VERY well......
    Last edited by Stranraer; 05-02-2021 at 21:12.
    Mark Levinson 390 CD / Croft 25RS Special Preamp / Croft 7R mono Amps / Neat Ultimatum XLS Speakers

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    There are a few Croft users on the forum , and probably a few Oppo users too . The best improvements are ALWAYS the free ones David . Enjoy
    Regards
    Brian

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    Got an oppo too. Never noticed if mine has. Must look as a matter of interest.
    Regards,
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    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
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    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

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    The best improvements are ALWAYS the free ones David . Enjoy

    Hard to argue thanks, Brian. That said I do think the Oppo could be improved on, which might require £££s.
    My Levinson 390 CD is now in hifi heaven so I'm casting around for ideas.

    Trust you're enjoying your Rega Brio by the way. I was a very happy owner of one some time ago. An Apollo CD player, too.
    Mark Levinson 390 CD / Croft 25RS Special Preamp / Croft 7R mono Amps / Neat Ultimatum XLS Speakers

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    Got an oppo too. Never noticed if mine has. Must look as a matter of interest.

    Teaching you to suck eggs no doubt, but it's easy to find in the Audio menu.
    You can set a maximum volume which I put to 15 (out of 100) initially in case I had the concept wrong and blew the speakers.

    This did not happen.
    Mark Levinson 390 CD / Croft 25RS Special Preamp / Croft 7R mono Amps / Neat Ultimatum XLS Speakers

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    Yes , my mate has modified an Oppo to the max and it sounds excellent and plays movies to a very high level .

    I've moved on from the Brio David , just can't figure out how to change the list of gear . I now use a big old Sony integrated
    Regards
    Brian

    Sell your cleverness and buy bewilderment . (Rumi )


    Korus Computer Audio music server
    JustBoom DAC . HRT Musicstreamer 2
    Amplifier : Sony TA FB740R
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian2957 View Post
    Yes , my mate has modified an Oppo to the max and it sounds excellent and plays movies to a very high level .

    I've moved on from the Brio David , just can't figure out how to change the list of gear . I now use a big old Sony integrated
    It's in settings or profile or both Brian. Would need to be on pc to be sure. Will find out tomorrow mate
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    FIIO K7 BT, M11 PLUS, BTR7, KA5 - OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - PANASONIC 4K ULTRA HD TV - PIXEL 6 - AVANTREE LR BLUETOOTH - 2* X600 SOUNDCORE - HEADPHONES INCLUDE, FIIO, NURAPHONES', FOCAL, OPPO, BOSE, CAMBRIDGE, BOWER & WILKINS, DEVIALET, MARSHALL, SONY, MITCHELL & JOHNSTON - 2*ZBOOK'S- MERCURY BD ROM, ROON, QOBUZ, TIDAL, PLEX, CYBERLINK, JRIVER - MULTI HDD'S -

    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

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    Quote Originally Posted by brian2957 View Post
    Yes , my mate has modified an Oppo to the max and it sounds excellent and plays movies to a very high level .

    I've moved on from the Brio David , just can't figure out how to change the list of gear . I now use a big old Sony integrated
    Well the Brio could be described as many things, but Big would not be one of them. Although I like to believe that size isn't everything.

    A modified Oppo sounds interesting. Could you point me in the right direction for more info ? I've got a fixation about the Oppo being a weak link in my system just at the mo.
    Mark Levinson 390 CD / Croft 25RS Special Preamp / Croft 7R mono Amps / Neat Ultimatum XLS Speakers

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    Regards
    Brian

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    Amplifier : Sony TA FB740R
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    Interconnects : MS Audio / Klotz MC5000 .
    Speaker cables : Western Electric 16AG

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    Quote Originally Posted by brian2957 View Post
    PS Brian its;; Settings, edit profle or my profile, about me.. either/both.
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    FIIO K7 BT, M11 PLUS, BTR7, KA5 - OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - PANASONIC 4K ULTRA HD TV - PIXEL 6 - AVANTREE LR BLUETOOTH - 2* X600 SOUNDCORE - HEADPHONES INCLUDE, FIIO, NURAPHONES', FOCAL, OPPO, BOSE, CAMBRIDGE, BOWER & WILKINS, DEVIALET, MARSHALL, SONY, MITCHELL & JOHNSTON - 2*ZBOOK'S- MERCURY BD ROM, ROON, QOBUZ, TIDAL, PLEX, CYBERLINK, JRIVER - MULTI HDD'S -

    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

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