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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony View Post
    Cheers Marco, a wall shelf is something I have considered, as my rack sits on carpeted floorboards. I've no doubt I would hear some real benefit

    That is a very good looking shelf! But it would have to be black, or it would stick out like a sore thumb. Remember this is our lounge, not a listening room, unfortunately, And the deck (with its cover) has a very large footprint, and those two requirements combined effectively double the cost. But you've planted the seed now, and i can't unsee it, damn you!
    Yeah, he s got me thinking as well ?, would have to be on me 1 solid wall though otherwise could see it all going nipples up

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    It may go against the grain for many, but the cheap, clip together plastic shelving units have their place. They are usually made from an ABS type material and have the unique benefit of ultra low energy storage. I use a sturdy wall mounted shelf for the TT and a steel stand for amplifiers etc., but find a plastic shelving unit works fine for CD players and DACs. I do put meaty Sorbothane pads under the component feet though. It works!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony View Post
    Cheers Marco, a wall shelf is something I have considered, as my rack sits on carpeted floorboards. I've no doubt I would hear some real benefit

    That is a very good looking shelf! But it would have to be black, or it would stick out like a sore thumb. Remember this is our lounge, not a listening room, unfortunately, And the deck (with its cover) has a very large footprint, and those two requirements combined effectively double the cost. But you've planted the seed now, and i can't unsee it, damn you!
    make sure its a sound, solid wall tho. if the wall has, say an internal staircase attached it might not be suitable as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    It may go against the grain for many, but the cheap, clip together plastic shelving units have their place. They are usually made from an ABS type material and have the unique benefit of ultra low energy storage. I use a sturdy wall mounted shelf for the TT and a steel stand for amplifiers etc., but find a plastic shelving unit works fine for CD players and DACs. I do put meaty Sorbothane pads under the component feet though. It works!

    (and I don't care about the looks )
    No, me neither, but you know what women can be like. Don't mind it sounding shit as long as it looks good. Bit like me and my singing. I'd have been out on my ear long ago if I weren't so damned good looking
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony View Post
    No, me neither, but you know what women can be like. Don't mind it sounding shit as long as it looks good. Bit like me and my singing. I'd have been out on my ear long ago if I weren't so damned good looking
    Lucky you, I had to get by with my singing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony View Post
    Cheers Marco, a wall shelf is something I have considered, as my rack sits on carpeted floorboards. I've no doubt I would hear some real benefit

    That is a very good looking shelf! But it would have to be black, or it would stick out like a sore thumb. Remember this is our lounge, not a listening room, unfortunately, And the deck (with its cover) has a very large footprint, and those two requirements combined effectively double the cost. But you've planted the seed now, and i can't unsee it, damn you!
    Apologies for the late reply... Well, I think they also do them in black, but best to check

    And yes, you really need a solid wall and for it to be fixed super-securely. I got DarrenHW (of this parish) to fit mine, as he's a builder and did a superb job of it, far better than the dog's dinner I'd have made of it! You're handy though, so I'm sure you'd be fine.

    Follow the thread here (post 10 is particularly useful):https://theartofsound.net/forum/show...ble+wall+shelf ] and you'll be able to read what he secured it with (Thunderbolt fasteners). However, in terms of isolating any turntable from the effects of its surrounding environment, and maximising sonics, a well-designed and solid wall shelf, IME, has no equals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Apologies for the late reply... Well, I think they also do them in black, but best to check

    And yes, you really need a solid wall and for it to be fixed super-securely. I got DarrenHW (of this parish) to fit mine, as he's a builder and did a superb job of it, far better than the dog's dinner I'd have made of it! You're handy though, so I'm sure you'd be fine.

    Follow the thread here (post 10 is particularly useful):https://theartofsound.net/forum/show...ble+wall+shelf ] and you'll be able to read what he secured it with (Thunderbolt fasteners). However, in terms of isolating any turntable from the effects of its surrounding environment, and maximising sonics, a well-designed and solid wall shelf, IME, has no equals

    Marco.
    Yes they do them in black, I'd checked. But it is all a bit pricey by the time you select the largest size (my deck is a big heavy lump) which makes it £273. The black option then bumps the price to £383. But it's so good looking it's ruined other shelfs for me. So I'll look out for a used one and paint it meself if it's the wrong colour

    And yeah I could fit it myself, I'm the thunderbolt master (according to all the women). Get through dozens every week (thunderbolts, not women)
    I just dropped in, to see what condition my condition was in

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