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    Quote Originally Posted by nonuffin View Post
    I had a mains power cord that did exactly that each time I used it.
    It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    There is nothing in cables to 'burn in'. No miraculous realignment of molecules or reconfiguration of atomic structure occurs, they remain as they were made. In my opinion of course, others may differ.
    It all depends on whether the cables have been stroked over their thighs by Pacific Island virgins while reciting words from the Kama Sutra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    its true tho.. folk spent a grand of cables and they sound crap, or no better then to stop them wanting a refund, you say they need 200 hrs... by that time you have forgotten that they sounded crap as your used to them.
    And don't forget the 'burn in' service - pay extra and they'll burn it in on their special burn-in machine thingy. It must all be real, why would they lie?

    My favourite burn-in stories are the ones where the thing sounds terrible 'straight out the box', but then with (say) 40 hours on it, it starts to 'open up.' Then, at 100 hours, it sounds terrible again. but that only lasts 20 hours and then after that it's 'stabilised' and with a wonderful sound.

    3 months later it's on eBay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    its true tho.. folk spent a grand of cables and they sound crap, or no better then to stop them wanting a refund, you say they need 200 hrs... by that time you have forgotten that they sounded crap as your used to them.
    Great theory Grant!
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    I often burn my fingers making them. Does that count?


    (if I wasn't so lazy, I'd have a bespoke cable business )
    It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!

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    The main problem I have with the cable is the fact that it’s colour means it disappears against the wall behind my speakers, so it means the wife loves it!
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    Craig,

    For any new cable I put in I don't sweat nowadays, but I have heard changes with many cables I've put in my system.

    Some cables seem affected more than others which is interesting.
    Silver plated copper, ferinstance, seems to take a longer time than plain copper.
    New solder connections, dialectric etc can change over time with varying voltage applied.
    Metallurgy is a real thing, it's not voodoo or a belief system.

    Even recently, I re-terminated my Morrow speaker cable with KLEI silver z-plugs, took a couple of weeks for the sound to settle down and bloom.
    JUST the connections.
    These were 1K speaker cables, and due to the naff terminations I wasn't hearing what they could do.

    Like anything in this game, there's usually many variables that factor in and it's never black and white.

    Just put your cables in and enjoy any improvements that come over time.
    Trust your own ears mate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by icehockeyboy View Post
    The main problem I have with the cable is the fact that it’s colour means it disappears against the wall behind my speakers, so it means the wife loves it!
    That answers your query in full methinks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazjam View Post
    Craig,

    For any new cable I put in I don't sweat nowadays, but I have heard changes with many cables I've put in my system.

    Some cables seem affected more than others which is interesting.
    Silver plated copper, ferinstance, seems to take a longer time than plain copper.
    New solder connections, dialectric etc can change over time with varying voltage applied.
    Metallurgy is a real thing, it's not voodoo or a belief system.

    Even recently, I re-terminated my Morrow speaker cable with KLEI silver z-plugs, took a couple of weeks for the sound to settle down and bloom.
    JUST the connections.
    These were 1K speaker cables, and due to the naff terminations I wasn't hearing what they could do.

    Like anything in this game, there's usually many variables that factor in and it's never black and white.

    Just put your cables in and enjoy any improvements that come over time.
    Trust your own ears mate.
    But how does such a low voltage cause materials to change?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CageyH View Post
    But how does such a low voltage cause materials to change?
    There's no point asking for a scientific explanation because there isn't one. It's either due to some unknown unknown or it's the mind playing tricks combined with a less than rigorous testing procedure.

    Either is possible, but one is far more likely than the other.
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    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.

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