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    Default Most difficult musical instrument for Hi Fi Systems to reproduce ?

    IMO its the piano, there is a lot to understand about audio systems, if the piano as a specific instrument is listened to.

    The piano of course disguises to a degree what is causing it to do what it does, as it is percussive.

    What instrument would you say is the most difficult, for HiFi Systems ?

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    Pipe organ!
    Quote Originally Posted by Light Dependant Resistor View Post
    IMO its the piano, there is a lot to understand about audio systems, if the piano as a specific instrument is listened to.

    The piano of course disguises to a degree what is causing it to do what it does, as it is percussive.

    What instrument would you say is the most difficult, for HiFi Systems ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonyTD View Post
    Pipe organ!
    Interesting choice ! Hymns Organs spheres by Keith Jarrett explores that instruments boundaries - have you heard that piece ?

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    No, i havent heard that piece Chris.
    Pipe organ is a very difficult instrument for a hi-fi system to reproduce for one paticular reason and that is; its capability to reproduce very low frequency with such power, and virocity!
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    Interesting choice ! Hymns Organs spheres by Keith Jarrett explores that instruments boundaries - have you heard that piece ?
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    Without question: the human voice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherwood View Post
    Without question: the human voice!
    Nah it's not full range enough and therefore not a real challenge.

    To be really challenging it needs to be very full range.

    Stand next to a real drum kit and then go and listen to most hi-fi systems do it. The dynamics on real drums are absolutely incredible. And they're very full range.

    Note most hi-fi systems can sound good just playing drums but they are nowhere near the real thing.

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    It is not just about dynamic range with the human voice. It is about micro detail, timbre and that "x-factor". We all know what a human voice sounds like and (for me certainly) are very sensitive to when it sounds "off".

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    Following on from the Pipe organ ....i'm going to add Bagpipes which to my ears sound completely different in real life to any recorded music i've heard

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherwood View Post
    It is not just about dynamic range with the human voice. It is about micro detail, timbre and that "x-factor". We all know what a human voice sounds like and (for me certainly) are very sensitive to when it sounds "off".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherwood View Post
    It is not just about dynamic range with the human voice. It is about micro detail, timbre and that "x-factor". We all know what a human voice sounds like and (for me certainly) are very sensitive to when it sounds "off".
    Yeah I take that point, but I still think what I said.

    My 1963 Scott 350 valve tuner does voices through my speakers better than any other source I have ever owned. It's crazy good, if larger than life through some large planars.

    Voices through stereo speakers always sound wrong, though. Easy to understand why.

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