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    Assuming you acknowledge cables need burning in, and I assume it’s like asking how long is a piece of string, how long on average should speaker cables take to burn in?
    As far as I can remember, I haven’t had to burn any in, possibly due to the fact that most, but not all, were pre owned, but I fancied trying some new,(to me) very reasonably priced ones, expecting something from them, a shimmering sparkly top end, which wasn’t there, so I assumed they needed burning in, although a very knowledgeable member here told me that the brand would not benefit from any burning in.
    Thoughts and opinions please ladies and gentlemen.
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    There is nothing in cables to 'burn in'. No miraculous realignment of molecules or reconfiguration of atomic structure occurs, they remain as they were made. In my opinion of course, others may differ.
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    What Geoff said.
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    I think that “cable burn in” is equal to the amount of time that your brain needs to get accustomed to the new sound of your system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CageyH View Post
    I think that “cable burn in” is equal to the amount of time that your brain needs to get accustomed to the new sound of your system.
    Yup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CageyH View Post
    I think that “cable burn in” is equal to the amount of time that your brain needs to get accustomed to the new sound of your system.
    That is probably mostly true, but cables do burn in albeit very slightly. Signal cables less so due to their small current draw, which speaker and power cables have plenty of for the process. It isn't a "one off" process either, as a period of non-usage means they may need running in again. I had a mains power cord that did exactly that each time I used it.

    What will never happen is a poor sounding cable transform into a great sounding cable like a flower bud opening up.

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    Thanks for the replies.
    I notice that Nordost think cables do require burning in, any thoughts on why that would be? ��
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    Money?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Money?
    its true tho.. folk spent a grand of cables and they sound crap, or no better then to stop them wanting a refund, you say they need 200 hrs... by that time you have forgotten that they sounded crap as your used to them.
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    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

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