Dude,
You cannot possibly have tried the cartridges I am referring to as no one loans out these babies, I respect what you are saying of course but example you won't have heard a DS Audio optical cartridge will you?
We all go our own routes with hifi and the G800 while very good is nothing compared to say a Hana ML, we are in different camps I know as I CBA fannying about looking for NOS cartridges but keep up the good work its a cool thread.