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  1. #101
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    Its great when you find a system tweak that makes really significant gains. Congratulations


    I’m a firm believer in isolation of components and control of vibrations and I can imagine turn tables having a lot of opportunities to improve things in that regard (but no real direct experience here as I’m a streaming guy)

    If you find £300 expensive but want to try cheaper alternatives you can buy a vibration absorbing material from Japan called fo.q they do a 0.5mm thick pack of 2 sheets about A5 sized for about £35 on ebay UK. You could use it throughout your entire system to very good effect but tone arm , headshell and on the cartridge are supposed to respond very well to it. The headshell is very sensitive and needs fine tuning with amount of material.

    They also sell a pack for £150 where you get a 1mm and 2mm turntable mat of the same material and you can stack mats if that works for you and a small amount of 0.5mm tape for the tone arm components, that gets good reviews.


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  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Indeed. Kev, you've just got to get one - it's *that* good!

    Especially as you're a confirmed Funk fan...

    Marco.
    I don’t have any high end cartridges, so £300 is almost the price of what I am using.
    My current cartridge (Cartridge Man Music Maker) already has something.

    My other cartridges could well benefit from one, but the next purchase was going to be an ART-9, then COVID-19 reared it’s head and I decided to be sensible and stop spending money on non-essentials as job security is not 100%.

    It may be a couple of years before I go back to my usual spending habits.
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by Discopants View Post
    Its great when you find a system tweak that makes really significant gains. Congratulations


    I’m a firm believer in isolation of components and control of vibrations and I can imagine turn tables having a lot of opportunities to improve things in that regard (but no real direct experience here as I’m a streaming guy)

    If you find £300 expensive but want to try cheaper alternatives you can buy a vibration absorbing material from Japan called fo.q they do a 0.5mm thick pack of 2 sheets about A5 sized for about £35 on ebay UK. You could use it throughout your entire system to very good effect but tone arm , headshell and on the cartridge are supposed to respond very well to it. The headshell is very sensitive and needs fine tuning with amount of material.

    They also sell a pack for £150 where you get a 1mm and 2mm turntable mat of the same material and you can stack mats if that works for you and a small amount of 0.5mm tape for the tone arm components, that gets good reviews.
    Cheers, Martin. Good advice there. Most systems/components don't have enough damping, IME, and the ingress of vibration, hobbling music signals, is one of the biggest enemies towards getting a great sound!

    Btw, in terms of turntable mats, aside of course from Funk's Achromat, which is excellent, I've been getting superb results with this one from Soundeck: https://soundeck.bigcartel.com/produ...luminium-black

    It's so good, it's ousted my (already excellent), and much more expensive, Nagaoka glass mat - it just offers better damping/isolation I think, and consequently allows more information to be retrieved from the grooves. I intend on doing a separate review of it soon!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by CageyH View Post
    I don’t have any high end cartridges, so £300 is almost the price of what I am using.
    My current cartridge (Cartridge Man Music Maker) already has something.

    My other cartridges could well benefit from one, but the next purchase was going to be an ART-9, then COVID-19 reared it’s head and I decided to be sensible and stop spending money on non-essentials as job security is not 100%.

    It may be a couple of years before I go back to my usual spending habits.
    No worries, Kevin. Sensible move, considering the circumstances, and I hope your job is secure.

    The point being though that you don't need a 'hi-end cartridge' to use the Houdini. I don't have a hi-end cartridge either, the 'highest end' one being a DL-103. The point is that fitting the Houdini allows even the most modest (but well-designed, good quality) cartridge and arm to perform like something MUCH more expensive - and it DOES!

    Honestly, I'd comfortably put the 'lowly' Shure MM I'm currently using [fitted with the Houdini] against ANY cartridge up to £1000, and would be confident of it holding its own - no joke... I know exactly what I'm hearing, and the sort of performance this little device is delivering in that respect, in terms of allowing the music to shine.

    Quite simply, once you've heard it, there's NO going back - as going back just guarantees a worse sound!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


    Protect your HUMAN RIGHTS and REFUSE ANY *MANDATORY* VACCINE FOR COVID-19!

    Also **SAY NO** to unjust 'vaccine passports' or certificates, which are totally incompatible with a FREE society!!!


  5. #105
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    I shall have to drop AK a little note...
    Kevin

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    European loan coordinator for Graham Slee HiFi system components..

  6. #106
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    I would, seriously... If there's only one thing you buy this year for your system, or turntable, make it a Houdini. Honestly, you'll thank me for the head's up!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


    Protect your HUMAN RIGHTS and REFUSE ANY *MANDATORY* VACCINE FOR COVID-19!

    Also **SAY NO** to unjust 'vaccine passports' or certificates, which are totally incompatible with a FREE society!!!


  7. #107
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    Since I've revisited the system (and turntable), I've been playing around with some of the record clamps and weights I've got, and rediscovered something that I used to find very effective, in terms of damping any vibration on both the record and spindle: SRM-Tech 'The Revolution'....

    Details here: http://srm-tech.co.uk/epages/4c00892...8/Products/RSC

    And 'in action':



    For less than £30, this really is quite a remarkable little device! More folks should be using them, as they are extremely effective, creating a much lower noise-floor, during playback of all vinyl records, plus reduced groove noise with subjectively lower distortion, which subsequently reveals significantly more musical information.

    Its 'clamping effect' is achieved via the tacky/slightly sticky nature of the Sorbothane base material 'sucking up' the record when pressed down onto the label, so that records can't 'slip' during playback, plus it dampens any vibrations both in the record itself during playback, and also importantly on the spindle - and is forming a brilliant partnership with the Soundeck PM Black T/T mat. The cumulative effect is simply more music!

    Aesthetically, I think it also suits the look of the turntable

    A highly recommended T/T mat/record clamp combo, forming an effective damping/vibration killing solution [plus the use of a handy little levelling bubble], for less than £120!

    Record shown: Mo-Fi Ltd Edition 45RPM Original Master Recording of "Kind of Blue' by Miles Davis.

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


    Protect your HUMAN RIGHTS and REFUSE ANY *MANDATORY* VACCINE FOR COVID-19!

    Also **SAY NO** to unjust 'vaccine passports' or certificates, which are totally incompatible with a FREE society!!!


  8. #108
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    ah the revolution.. i had one of those on my srm deck.

    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    FIIO K7 BT, M11 PLUS, BTR7, KA5 - OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - PANASONIC 4K ULTRA HD TV - PIXEL 6 - AVANTREE LR BLUETOOTH - 2* X600 SOUNDCORE - HEADPHONES INCLUDE, FIIO, NURAPHONES', FOCAL, OPPO, BOSE, CAMBRIDGE, BOWER & WILKINS, DEVIALET, MARSHALL, SONY, MITCHELL & JOHNSTON - 2*ZBOOK'S- MERCURY BD ROM, ROON, QOBUZ, TIDAL, PLEX, CYBERLINK, JRIVER - MULTI HDD'S -

    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

  9. #109
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    Nice, mate. You should've kept it (and the T/T, lol)! How did it sound?

    For me, they're one of those manufacturers that offer high SPPV.

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


    Protect your HUMAN RIGHTS and REFUSE ANY *MANDATORY* VACCINE FOR COVID-19!

    Also **SAY NO** to unjust 'vaccine passports' or certificates, which are totally incompatible with a FREE society!!!


  10. #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Nice, mate. You should've kept it (and the T/T, lol)! How did it sound?

    For me, they're one of those manufacturers that offer high SPPV.

    Marco.
    was a good deck.. a member here has it now for a number of years. the clamp was quite good. clever system. worked on most records but not all. they wear at the hole(old ones) but thats the way with old holes
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    FIIO K7 BT, M11 PLUS, BTR7, KA5 - OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - PANASONIC 4K ULTRA HD TV - PIXEL 6 - AVANTREE LR BLUETOOTH - 2* X600 SOUNDCORE - HEADPHONES INCLUDE, FIIO, NURAPHONES', FOCAL, OPPO, BOSE, CAMBRIDGE, BOWER & WILKINS, DEVIALET, MARSHALL, SONY, MITCHELL & JOHNSTON - 2*ZBOOK'S- MERCURY BD ROM, ROON, QOBUZ, TIDAL, PLEX, CYBERLINK, JRIVER - MULTI HDD'S -

    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

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