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  1. #401
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    The plug on mine is moulded onto the coiled lead, whereas the plug on my Koss ESP-6 is a separate item, soldered onto the lead and attached by a simple cable crimp.

    The moulded on plug makes me now doubt the vintage.

    I've sent you a PM with the full details.
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    Ah ok, mate. The plug looks pretty much like any other generic moulded one (onto a coiled lead). It's nothing special, but then back in 1976, 'fancy connectors' hadn't happened yet...

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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  3. #403
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    I'd like to try the Shure, as I hate spending big bucks on carts, any advice on finding the right one and what stylus to use with it? Currently use a 401 with the Mayware tonearm, or 1210 gr with 750D.
    Current system 1210 GR. CDP - Meridian G08. Amp -Sugden A21I - Sig. Wharfedale Lintons.

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    It's not so much as getting "the right one" , it's more about how it's set up. You need to get decent heavy headshell, good tonearm compliance, and also that the Shure "sees" the correct amount of capacitance. Then you've got to set the bugger up. Overall you should be in for a treat but it might be a bit costlier than what you might think.
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    Hi Mike,

    I'm not sure that the Mayware would be the best arm for an SC35C, as that tends to like a high-mass arm. However, you could certainly try it, as the cartridge doesn't cost much (if you can still find one, as they've now been discontinued), and you could implement the rider weight, as Shane outlined on your thread about tonearms.

    Failing that, another recommendation, which I think would work really well on your arm would be a Goldring G800 Super-E. The G800 has a similar sonic signature to the SC35C, but the Super-E with its high-compliance would work really well on your arm.

    However. if you'd like to try something modern, available brand new, which sounds really good and offers excellent SPPV, then consider a Nagaoka MP100 or MP110: https://www.musonic.co.uk/index.php?...products_id=31

    Those really punch above their weight, and IMO, sound more musical and tonally richer than their Ortofon or AT counterparts.

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


    Protect your HUMAN RIGHTS and REFUSE ANY *MANDATORY* VACCINE FOR COVID-19!

    Also **SAY NO** to unjust 'vaccine passports' or certificates, which are totally incompatible with a FREE society!!!


  6. #406
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Hi Mike,

    I'm not sure that the Mayware would be the best arm for an SC35C, as that tends to like a high-mass arm. However, you could certainly try it, as the cartridge doesn't cost much (if you can still find one, as they've now been discontinued), and you could implement the rider weight, as Shane outlined on your thread about tonearms.

    Failing that, another recommendation, which I think would work really well on your arm would be a Goldring G800 Super-E. The G800 has a similar sonic signature to the SC35C, but the Super-E with its high-compliance would work really well on your arm.

    However. if you'd like to try something modern, available brand new, which sounds really good and offers excellent SPPV, then consider a Nagaoka MP100 or MP110: https://www.musonic.co.uk/index.php?...products_id=31

    Those really punch above their weight, and IMO, sound more musical and tonally richer than their Ortofon or AT counterparts.

    Marco.
    Thank you fellows, how about using the Shure with the Jelco 750? I also had a Nag cart - the mp200 but it 'broke', I stupidly chucked it and am now left with a brand new stylus, but having to fork out £300 for another cart! (of course that will come with another stylus).
    Current system 1210 GR. CDP - Meridian G08. Amp -Sugden A21I - Sig. Wharfedale Lintons.

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    Yeah, the Shure should work fine on the Jelco, so that's defo an option, but if you're thinking of getting another MP200, then they'll probably be no contest.

    To answer your question about what's the best stylus to use with the SC35C, IMO it's a genuine NOS one. The aftermarket varieties with posh tips, such as those from Jico sound quite different, but IMO, and for my tastes, a bit 'too hi-fi', and for me that's not what the Shure is about.

    You don't want to spoil or alter its ballsy 'fun' sound, which IMO is the case with anything fitted other than a NOS stylus. Certainly don't touch modern replacements of such with a bargepole, as the quality is shocking!

    If you decide to take a punt on the Shure, I can sort you out with a body and a NOS stylus to fit, as I have spares. Just PM me if you're interested and I'll do you a deal

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


    Protect your HUMAN RIGHTS and REFUSE ANY *MANDATORY* VACCINE FOR COVID-19!

    Also **SAY NO** to unjust 'vaccine passports' or certificates, which are totally incompatible with a FREE society!!!


  8. #408
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Yeah, the Shure should work fine on the Jelco, so that's defo an option, but if you're thinking of getting another MP200, then they'll probably be no contest.

    To answer your question about what's the best stylus to use with the SC35C, IMO it's a genuine NOS one. The aftermarket varieties with posh tips, such as those from Jico sound quite different, but IMO, and for my tastes, a bit 'too hi-fi', and for me that's not what the Shure is about.

    You don't want to spoil or alter its ballsy 'fun' sound, which IMO is the case with anything fitted other than a NOS stylus. Certainly don't touch modern replacements of such with a bargepole, as the quality is shocking!

    If you decide to take a punt on the Shure, I can sort you out with a body and a NOS stylus to fit, as I have spares. Just PM me if you're interested and I'll do you a deal

    Marco.
    So you're saying the MP 200 would be better? Not seen this thread before BTW, your speakers look amazing! I think I should try the Shure, good with 60s rock and beat may'be?
    Current system 1210 GR. CDP - Meridian G08. Amp -Sugden A21I - Sig. Wharfedale Lintons.

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    Lol... Which speakers are you referring to, the monster Lockwoods or the small, but perfectly formed Ditton 15s?

    Ok, in terms of cartridges, yes I think that *in some areas* an MP200 would outperform the Shure. However, in the areas you mention, 60s rock and stuff, defo not. That's where the Shure excels!

    As I said, if you're interested in trying one with a NOS stylus, pop me a PM

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


    Protect your HUMAN RIGHTS and REFUSE ANY *MANDATORY* VACCINE FOR COVID-19!

    Also **SAY NO** to unjust 'vaccine passports' or certificates, which are totally incompatible with a FREE society!!!


  10. #410
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    Quote Originally Posted by REXTON View Post
    It's not so much as getting "the right one" , it's more about how it's set up. You need to get decent heavy headshell, good tonearm compliance, and also that the Shure "sees" the correct amount of capacitance. Then you've got to set the bugger up. Overall you should be in for a treat but it might be a bit costlier than what you might think.
    Thanks Andrew, don't mind spending a bit, especially on stuff I can use with other carts like headshell.
    Current system 1210 GR. CDP - Meridian G08. Amp -Sugden A21I - Sig. Wharfedale Lintons.

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