I'd like to get into R2R. I must admit to wanting to try one for quite some time now. Can anyone recommend a decent newbie machine? The Revox a77 seems to be getting a lot of love on the forum.
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I'm Andrew.
R2R - Newbie recommendations
I'd like to get into R2R. I must admit to wanting to try one for quite some time now. Can anyone recommend a decent newbie machine? The Revox a77 seems to be getting a lot of love on the forum.
SS
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Al,
I have big pockets but that's taking the piss!
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apparently its good value
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Just starting out I would go for a Revox A77, easy to use and sound great.
Do not Know here you are in the world but I got my Revox A77 from Vintagetech, always worth contacting to see what they have for sale.
Nice guy to do business with as well if it is still in the same ownership.
https://www.vintagetech.co.uk/
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Revox A77 MK IV 2 track 15 & 7 1/2 IPS
TEAC A-3300SX 4 track 7 1/2 & 3 3/4 IPS
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Andrew,
Before launching into this, It would be helpful to know what you want to get out of R2R. Is it:
a) using a R2R to record from other sources eg LP, CD, broadcast etc (I can't understand why someone might do this, but some do) - doesn't matter what format you have 2 track or 4 track (other than 2 track has higher SQ)
b) playing pre-recorded commercial tapes, which are mostly 4 track (ie like a cassette - 2 channels one way and 2 channels on reverse direction) - there a few 7.5 IPS 2 track commercial release, but these are much rarer
c) wanting to play 15 IPS "master" tapes, in which case you will need a semi pro/ studio 2 track machine
d) what's your budget - not only for the machine, but also music/tape?
Charlie
R2R: Studer A820 1/2 inch 2 track; Otari MTR-12 1/4 inch 2 track; Sony APR 5003; Sony APR 5002; Studer A807/II. Vinyl: Platine Verdier Allaerts MC1B/Schroeder Reference & Model 2 Decca C4E/Hadcock 228 TRON Seven Reference phono. Keith Monks MkII RCM Other analogue source: Nakamichi Dragon with ANT4066 mods. Amplification: TRON Meteor preamp TRON Voyager 20B SET power. Speakers: Avantgarde Duo. Digital: computing at last with Prism Sound Lyra 2 A2D converter
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That's great thanks.Originally Posted by Cas
Charlie, in answer to your questions.
b). Yep. I fancy trying some of the new stuff released.
c). Yep, I'd love to try these as well.
d). Probably into the thousands if the right deck crops up and I get into the hobby properly.
SS
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A Revox B77mk2 HS or PR99 or an Otari MX55 would be my recommendation
The Tascam BR20 would also be perfect if you can find one
Alan
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AnDreW
If you are interested in Revox do contact Paul Baldwin at reelaudio. He may know of a goodun, and anyway is the goto man for servicing and repairing Revox stuff.
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Andrew,
If I was buying another studio machine (15IPS 2 track) now, I would probably get a Telefunken M15/M20/M21 from Hilpert in Germany - they were the German equivalent of the Studer A80 series.. Hilpert were the German service agents for Telefunken; they have stocks of spares and still service them. Telefunken ruled the roost in Germany, whereas Studer was predominant elsewhere. If you buy a machine from Hilpert, it is fully serviced. The prices below are for refurbished, serviced machines, which would be ready to run straight away. Prices start at about Euro 2300 for a stereo 15 IPS 2 track 1/4 inch machine.
http://www.hilpert-audio.de/audio/geraete/PricelM20.PDF
http://www.hilpert-audio.de/audio/ge...PricelM15a.PDF
No meters on these machines, but that's not a major issue - just buy a set off PPM meters.
Charlie
R2R: Studer A820 1/2 inch 2 track; Otari MTR-12 1/4 inch 2 track; Sony APR 5003; Sony APR 5002; Studer A807/II. Vinyl: Platine Verdier Allaerts MC1B/Schroeder Reference & Model 2 Decca C4E/Hadcock 228 TRON Seven Reference phono. Keith Monks MkII RCM Other analogue source: Nakamichi Dragon with ANT4066 mods. Amplification: TRON Meteor preamp TRON Voyager 20B SET power. Speakers: Avantgarde Duo. Digital: computing at last with Prism Sound Lyra 2 A2D converter
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