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    And also stuff like the Rolling Stones, that's not so great with this set up too, which brings me back to my original premise Although I possibly/probably should have stated Audio Note Js, rather than valve amps. Was reading a similar thread over on Pink fish fainting ladies the other day about Living voice speakers, great with simple music, shit with everything else.
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    Yes I misstated my intention, not "punk era" but "Punk genre".

    Dire Straits first, very good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Light Dependant Resistor View Post
    Although other music in the punk era still occurred, and some has good SQ. ie Dire straits first album.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeandvan View Post
    And also stuff like the Rolling Stones, that's not so great with this set up too, which brings me back to my original premise Although I possibly/probably should have stated Audio Note Js, rather than valve amps. Was reading a similar thread over on Pink fish fainting ladies the other day about Living voice speakers, great with simple music, shit with everything else.
    I have a number of Rolling Stones records and CDs and to be honest I would question the SQ or care put into some of them. Sine tracks sound great and then there can be quite thin and top ends, not sure why but I find some of what I have of theirs irritating to listen to, it’s not the musical content but the production/mix.


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    The original Decca recordings are very good. Some of the CD remasters are questionable and some of them are re-mixes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    The original Decca recordings are very good. Some of the CD remasters are questionable and some of them are re-mixes.
    The SACDs are all re-mixed and re-mastered, they sound good, they are hybrids so you don't need a SACD capable player. I tend to listen to the original CD releases though. More authentic.

    The original recordings were not state of the art even for back then and SQ varies from song to song sometimes. But none of them sound 'nasty' or hard to listen to.

    I'm talking Beggar's Banquet onwards here, I don't have any of their earlier albums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AJSki2fly View Post
    Try some XTC or Comsat Angels albums��
    Like The Big Express or The Black Sea, both pretty good productions imv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    The SACDs are all re-mixed and re-mastered, they sound good, they are hybrids so you don't need a SACD capable player. I tend to listen to the original CD releases though. More authentic.

    The original recordings were not state of the art even for back then and SQ varies from song to song sometimes. But none of them sound 'nasty' or hard to listen to.

    I'm talking Beggar's Banquet onwards here, I don't have any of their earlier albums.
    I too prefer the original CD releases. The CD collection of their hits sound exactly like my 7" singles of the time.

    Had the Decca engineers had their way the sound would have been very good: as good as that for Decca's classical recordings. But when the Stones were informed that they were playing too close to the microphones and too loudly, overloading them and distorting, they replied that was exactly what they wanted - a "dirty sound".
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    I've always found a lot the Stones albums to be quite severe in the treble whether CD or vinyl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJSki2fly View Post
    I have a number of Rolling Stones records and CDs and to be honest I would question the SQ or care put into some of them. Sine tracks sound great and then there can be quite thin and top ends, not sure why but I find some of what I have of theirs irritating to listen to, it’s not the musical content but the production/mix.


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