I want my dinner now, but I also want to finish the cd of Horace silver 'Cape verdean blues'! This set up is doing something seriously right, but not everything.
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I'm Dennis.
IMO if a speaker 'does some things right', this is a result of; oddities of a speaker, in which resultantly they are not having great demands placed on them, and the personal subjective education.
I agree that a good speaker should do all genres, by definition, and think that jazz places only certain demands on a speaker; it is very tympanic, plinky plonk piano, drums, and sax bursts, other genres, classical with sustained strings place quite other demands on a speaker.
Hilarious
I dunno what sort of Jazz you listen to but it sounds Bloody horrid to Me!
Lots of generalisations in this thread, very amusing.
If a speaker and amp combo only does 1 type of music well then something is very wrong.
Imho Dump the system and buy something that’s going to give you satisfaction across many musical styles (even the horror show of plinky plonk described!)
The title of the thread is surely not even To be taken seriously?
Mike, Get out and listen to some proper matched systems with valve amps, when you hear
What’s possible then ask the question (Thread title) again..
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This sounds good and 'hi-fi' through my laptop speakers, which are toppy and have absolutely no bass. It's no test of anything. You'd have to try to put a system together that made a mess of it.
I understand what you are saying about the big JVC sounding 'sterile' but the job of the amp is to amplify, not change the sound. The room and the loudspeakers will do enough of that already.
I don't know the JVC, never had one, never heard one, so no point in me getting into specifics on that particular amp. But you don't need valves to get good results from all types if music, likewise you don't need solid state to do that either, There are just good and bad amplifiers, the amplifying device doesn't matter, unless for some reason (very big room, very insensitive speakers) you need hundreds of watts.
No-one wants 'sterile' but the idea that valves are some sort of universal solution to that is just wrong. No-one makes music to sound sterile, no-one listens to their newly finished album album in the studio and says 'This sounds sterile but fuck it, let's put it out anyway.' But studios use very good speakers for making that assessment.
If I were you I'd go back to square one, start with the speakers as- assuming a digital source - the speakers far and away have the most influence on the sound quality. Don't piss about in the shallow end, get absolutely the best speakers (and yes, I'm talking measurements here since they do matter a lot as this thread demonstrates) you can afford, then sort out the amplifier.
Current Lash Up:
TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.
Bin it all and get Bose!
It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!
Personally I’d go for a pair of Apple Homepods and stream to them, you can put where you want as they optimise their output by taking room measurements and you can feed the vinyl/TT to it via an RPI, simples less boxes and lots and lots of bass. Other benefits are sell all the other gear and subscribe to lifelong streaming service And have money over, and have more room in the lounge.
Listening is the act of aural discrimination and dissemination of sound, and accepting you get it wrong sometimes.
Analog Inputs: Pro-Ject Signature 10 TT & arm, Benz Micro LP-S, Michel Cusis MC, Goldring 2500 and Ortofon Rondo Blue cartridges, Hitachi FT5500 mk2 Tuner
Digital:- Marantz SA-KI Pearl CD player, RaspberryPi/HifiBerry Digi+ Pro, Buffalo NAS Drive
Amplification:- AudioValve Sunilda phono stage, Krell KSP-7B pre-amp, Krell KSA-80 power amp
Output: Wilson Benesch Vector speakers, KLH Ultimate One Headphones
Cables: Tellurium Q Ultra Black II RCA & Chord Epic 2 RCA, various speaker leads, & links
I think I am nearing audio nirvana, but don’t tell anyone.
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