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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    not tried that yet. Got lead toilet paper though. :d
    jeez, thats rough
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    Quote Originally Posted by willbewill View Post
    Best thing to line with is pre-nuclear lead, cuts background radiation as well.
    What is "pre-nuclear lead"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    What is "pre-nuclear lead"?
    Probably what they screen Gamma Particle detectors with.
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    But since lead (206Pb and 208Pb) is the end result of the radioactive decay of uranium and other actinides, so "pre-nuclear lead" must be those radioactive elements that have yet to decay into lead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    What is "pre-nuclear lead"?
    Lead that was smelted prior to atomic explosions, in the past it has been used for lining rooms used to undertake whole body monitoring for radition contamination. I knew of one that used lead from a ship sunk prior to nuclear tests etc, hence contaminated.
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    Tony brought one around for me to try.

    Grounding Box indeed

    This will obviously be a waste of time.
    I will be polite and indulge him.

    Negative expectation bias.

    Hang on.
    One cable connected to my Rega Isis makes a difference.
    A second makes more difference
    Add one then another into the Belles Pre

    The cumulative difference takes some believing.

    One of the biggest upgrades to my system ever.

    When Covid is over I can demo

    The Coherent RTZ jobbie is different tech to Entreq, which it outperforms and SGS which I believe it also outperforms.
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    How would you describe the differences you hear? Are they just differences or a real improvement? Did you notice a degredation in SQ as you reversed the process to revert to your system as it was originally?
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    From the time :

    First cable into the Isis CD - RTZ, the less than ideal digital socket Tony said.
    Subtle improvement. Difficult to pin down as everything seemed subtly better.

    Plugged into an input socket into the Belles Pre.
    What an improvement ! Detail, bass, soundstage, mid - everything improved.

    Plugged into an output socket of the Belles.
    Another big jump up.

    The more cable plugged in the more music delivered.

    You have to hear it to believe it.

    Back ground comes forward without affecting the foreground

    SQ drops back to where it was when unplugged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeMusic View Post
    From the time :

    First cable into the Isis CD - RTZ, the less than ideal digital socket Tony said.
    Subtle improvement. Difficult to pin down as everything seemed subtly better.

    Plugged into an input socket into the Belles Pre.
    What an improvement ! Detail, bass, soundstage, mid - everything improved.

    Plugged into an output socket of the Belles.
    Another big jump up.

    The more cable plugged in the more music delivered.

    You have to hear it to believe it.

    Back ground comes forward without affecting the foreground

    SQ drops back to where it was when unplugged.
    Sound to good to be true to me, or everyone would have done it but now. But being open minded I will try and home demo at some point


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    My thoughts as well: the descriptions are too general and the sort of thing everyone says when they have made a change that they perceive to be an improvement.

    I would like to hear a description of exactly the improvements in "detail, bass, soundstage, mid".

    Would these improvement have come about by simply connecting all the 'earths' together without the 'grounding box'?
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