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    Hi Chaps,

    I would like to find an integrated valve amp for my Tannoy Devons, I have had several valve amps in the past - Leak, Radford and QUAD - but I do no recall having seen an integrated unit.

    Any suggestions?

    Cheers,

    Horacio

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    Rogers Cadet ?
    Quote Originally Posted by F575M View Post
    Hi Chaps,

    I would like to find an integrated valve amp for my Tannoy Devons, I have had several valve amps in the past - Leak, Radford and QUAD - but I do no recall having seen an integrated unit.

    Any suggestions?

    Cheers,

    Horacio
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    Hi Anthony,

    How could have I missed it? There is one for sale in Cornwall but I also found a new Rogers V now made in Germany, kind of expensive, 2.199,00 €. Please see link.

    https://rogershifi.de/produkte/ampli...lve-amplifier/

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    A friend of mine had one - nice little amplifier, if lacking power and bass grip.

    https://www.hifinews.com/content/rog...et-iii-vintage

    10W is just about sufficient for the Tannoy Devons with 89dB/W sensitivity.

    Another vintage British integrated amplifier to consider is the EMI 555 Stereoscope (aka HMV 555 Stereoscope) amplifier. Also 10W/channel from a pair of EL84s in push-pull. Very well built by the UK company Clarke and Smith, these units are quite rare, but occasionally come up for sale.

    Barry

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    Hi Horacio,
    Indeed, infact i have one sat at the side of me in my workshop, its a Cadet 3, i have had it a while, i have had most roger's models in at some point over the years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F575M View Post
    Hi Anthony,

    How could have I missed it? There is one for sale in Cornwall but I also found a new Rogers V now made in Germany, kind of expensive, 2.199,00 €. Please see link.

    https://rogershifi.de/produkte/ampli...lve-amplifier/
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    The Cadet III is rated at 12W/Ch, enough to drive my Devons for classical music?

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    I would think so, although some here might disagree, a lot depends on the size of your room, and how closely you listen. Safe to say, i think you would be surprised!
    Quote Originally Posted by F575M View Post
    The Cadet III is rated at 12W/Ch, enough to drive my Devons for classical music?
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    Scott are another manufacturer of fine vintage integrated's to look out for too, especialy over your side of the pond.
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    The Cadet has a phono stage for ceramic cartridges and I will need a phono stage for magnetic types, a big problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F575M View Post
    The Cadet III is rated at 12W/Ch, enough to drive my Devons for classical music?
    Not according to: https://www.hifiengine.com/manual_li...adet-iii.shtml

    But even with 10W and the 89dB/w sensitivity of the Tannoy Devons, you will be able to achieve maximum SPL of 99dB. That is pretty loud (certainly it's loud enough for me), but a typical orchestra can easily achieve much higher levels on peak tuttis, so you might feel you lack the dynamics required to reproduce symphonies realistically.
    Barry

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