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    Default best loudspeaker ever heard

    in my opion the esl 57 , electrostatics, and the neat ultimatum mfs (also better than the other in the ultimatum range) , what's your opinion about ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sergiox View Post
    in my opion the esl 57 , electrostatics
    Yes. At what they do, I've heard nothing better. They have limitations, but are amazing nonetheless.
    It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!

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    Yes, the Quad ELS 57s have some limitations/shortcomings/failures (depending on your viewpoint), but given the longevity of the design they were, and are, a remarkable achievement. If you have room for stacked pairs, that will go some way in ameliorating some of their shortcomings. Some have had success in using a sub-woofer to enhance the bass performance, but I couldn't get on with such an arrangement.

    I have been using Quad 57s for about forty five years and am unlikely to change them now.
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    Mine are ms signifiers followed by what I use now, Yamaha ns1000’s
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    Tend to agree, However; the limitations i suspect Geoff and Barry refer to can become obvious, when compared to other well respected Speakers.
    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Yes. At what they do, I've heard nothing better. They have limitations, but are amazing nonetheless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonyTD View Post
    Tend to agree, However; the limitations i suspect Geoff and Barry refer to can become obvious, when compared to other well respected Speakers.
    And vice versa. No loudspeaker is perfect; one has to choose which comes closest to what you want from a speaker.
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    Linkwitz LX521 - but you have to build them yourself and they are active so 8 channels of amplification required.



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    Well as you asked, I heard these at a friendly dealers (I think it was this model), they just blew me away the resolution, purity and musicality of the sound was profound, it sound like Eva Cassidy was stood in the room with her guitar, just stunning. I suppose they should be good at $100K. At the time they were driven with some serious Jadis pre and power amps with a SME 30/12 I think.

    The system would be on my list if I won the lottery, maybe a different TT, I'd have to evaluate that one.

    Having said that I think my system doesn't sound so far off, but I beat the dealer would whole heartedly disagree with me.

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    Indeed, once you have become acustomed to listening to a good pair of 57's, when you go back to listening to conventional loudspeaker types, your constantly reminded of what most do wrong!
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    And vice versa. No loudspeaker is perfect; one has to choose which come closest to what you want from a speaker.
    "Today scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality"
    Nikola Tesla



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    STOP BREXIT NOW was the best loudspeker I heard

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