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    Quote Originally Posted by Audio Al View Post
    Hum , now that takes some thinking about very unusual for a well set up vinyl system to be that bad
    I agree, and wonder if the problem is elsewhere - can you not borrow a phono stage (doesn't have to be expensive), and try it into one of the line level inputs? I'm assuming your amp has it's own phono input.
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    We all know that built in phono stages are crap even on quite expensive amps, so as others have said trying a separate phono stage would be your 1st point of call, other things to check are the cartridge alignment and VTF and make sure the stylus is clean and not covered in crud


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jac Hawk View Post
    We all know that built in phono stages are crap even on quite expensive amps, so as others have said trying a separate phono stage would be your 1st point of call, other things to check are the cartridge alignment and VTF and make sure the stylus is clean and not covered in crud
    True, I used to have a Musical Fidelity amp, and the phono stage was pretty grim, although the amp cost four times that of the preceding Cyrus 1. I think sometimes the phono stage on amps of a certain age was just a bit of an afterthought.

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    I just dropped in, to see what condition my condition was in

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    Not always though. The phono stage in my Forte Model 2 pre-amp was great and the one in my VTL Deluxe is bloomin' amazing .
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    Default Differential in sound quality between turntable and digital - Old Linn system

    Thanks folks. I’m using an old Linn Majik1 integrated amp (but only as a preamp as I’m using two activ LK100s) . I might investigate another phono stage. I might also look at a ‘proper’ preamp of a similar vintage, ie a Wakonda or indeed Kairn. I will stress my hearing is not great with h/f being quite problematic! I also tried two different pressings of the same lp. The 2018 remaster was a bit better than the original 1980 pressing. It’s a brand new cartridge/stylus so I can rule that out, but I will recalibrate it with a protractor.


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    A better stylus would probably help as well. Rather than the elliptical nude, something like the ML or SH would give you more detail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BDD View Post
    I will stress my hearing is not great with h/f being quite problematic!

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    Not to worry, most of us on here are deaf as a post. With the exception of Marco, he has ears like a bat. Looks like one too. I probably should have whispered that last bit
    I just dropped in, to see what condition my condition was in

    T/T: Inspire Monarch, X200 tonearm, Ortofon Quintet Blue. Phono: Project Tube Box CD: Marantz CD6006 (UK Edition); Amp: Musical Fidelity A5 Integrated.
    Speakers: Zu Omen Def, REL T9i subwoofer. Cables: Atlas Equator interconnects, Atlas Hyper 3.0 speaker cables

    T'other system:
    Echo Dot, Amptastic Mini One,Arcam A75 integrated, Celestion 5's, BK XLS-200 DF

    A/V:
    LG 55" OLED, Panasonic Blu Ray, Sony a/v amp, MA Radius speakers, REL Storm sub

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony View Post
    Not to worry, most of us on here are deaf as a post. With the exception of Marco, he has ears like a bat. Looks like one too. I probably should have whispered that last bit



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    Quote Originally Posted by CageyH View Post
    A better stylus would probably help as well. Rather than the elliptical nude, something like the ML or SH would give you more detail.
    Thanks - I’ll look at that further


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    Quote Originally Posted by graham67 View Post
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