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    Could it be a rolls canardely
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    There are clues in the image, On the rear panel is its name, what appears as in the last section dallgo 4V and prior to that what looks as clifford
    but is very obscured.

    The second clue is the use of larger rear rear wheels, very few manufacturers were doing this. and the Year is between 1898- and 1903
    as I can see. These pages give many manufacturers and detail of individual designs. http://earlyamericanautomobiles.com/1902.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Light Dependant Resistor View Post
    There are clues in the image, On the rear panel is its name, what appears as in the last section dallgo 4V and prior to that what looks as clifford
    but is very obscured.

    The second clue is the use of larger rear rear wheels, very few manufacturers were doing this. and the Year is between 1898- and 1903
    as I can see. These pages give many manufacturers and detail of individual designs. http://earlyamericanautomobiles.com/1902.htm
    Thanks very much for studying the picture in such detail but try as I might I can't make out those words (any words) but I'm only looking at a laptop screen, where exactly are they?

    And thanks for the resource you linked to, I'll have a look through that later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy S View Post
    Thanks very much for studying the picture in such detail but try as I might I can't make out those words (any words) but I'm only looking at a laptop screen, where exactly are they?

    And thanks for the resource you linked to, I'll have a look through that later.
    I have circled where the lettering is, enlarge the image you provided, and you will firstly see 4V at the end, and follow back from there for other lettering. Looking at it again this morning before what looks to be clifford, is, or what appears as, Michel. The a we use for Michael commonly today looks to be missing. There was much flamboyance too with the way writing occurred back then. Generally you would say the writing is cursive ( the keyboard and typewriter before it are to blame, for the boring writing we see today ) and the h has a extension toward what might be the e
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    It has just occurred to me that if the front flap does fold up, that the two projections on the bottom might be rear view mirrors.

    Time displacement .....

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    Thanks everyone for your input, I finally found it (not quite sure how, more than a bit of luck involved).

    May I present the 1901 Arrol Johnston


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    Yes that's it for sure, a good find may though be a 1902 model as pictured here, but not a lot of difference, but is the Dog cart model they produced.
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