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    Can you post the measurements you have taken Chris?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bumpy View Post
    I have looked into this a little and have settled on the Minidsp microphone (approx £100) and REW software (free). The microphone plugs directly into the USB port of a computer so no need for additional boxes.

    But, one question still troubles me "what is the microphone listening to?" cant be the sound of silence
    Not sure if you have got the MiniDsp yet or not as you mentioned you were going to wait. If you are doing the measurement on a MacBook the built in microphone is actually quite good and you could measure the speakers using this with REW, REW just defaults to the built in Mic. Alternatively if you have a simple webcam, you can use this as it will have a built in microphone, these are also usually quite good and can be surprisingly sensitive.

    It would at least give you an idea for now.
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    In addition to REW and also very good is : http://www.holmacoustics.com/holmimpulse.php and its free too. Favoured by Earl Geddes.

    I am happy with Omnimic V2 but it ain't free. Comes with a special CD with different signals that you can play from your computer or CD Player through your DUT. Uses burst tones for freq. response and will also provide CSD's and spectrograms. A bass decay function can identify room modes and helps with proper subwoofer placement. Excellent if using a DBA

    The wavelet spectrograms are great for comparing the performance of various horns and waveguides.

    A waterfall plot (CSD) gives RT60 of the whole system including room, clearly indicating where the biggest room problems lie. The desireable RT60 for the average room is around 400ms. This is the time it takes for the sound to decay by 60 dB. You can then introduce bass traps and absorption panels and compare results. This feature is essential for optimising the speaker and room system and has a dramatic effect. This is a very underrated and often overlooked approach to great sound. No power or speaker cable at any price can totally transform your system in the same way. None of this is difficult to DIY.

    About $300 and for a little more get an extra CD and cable which allows you to measure the T&S and electroacoustic parameters in less than a second.

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