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Thread: If you had £1300 to spend on a Tonearm?

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    Join Date: Mar 2014

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    Default If you had £1300 to spend on a Tonearm?

    Thinking about selling my Fidelity Research FR64FX arm, in fact I had it advertised last week then withdrew it as I changed my mind, I'm swithering again

    However, can I better it if I did sell it, and with a budget of around £1325 ( I choose this figure as that's what I've been quoted for another second hand upgraded arm I'm looking at, which is essentially retail price for that arm if you know what I mean ) can I do better that the Fidelity?

    I like Electronic, Rock ( classic/soft/metal/prog ), Blues ( Keb 'Mo/SRV ), some Americana to give you an idea of my tastes.

    I've been reading up on the AO PU7, The Wand Plus, Audio Technica 1010T ( modded by Phonomac ), Tiger Paw Javelin, plus a few others.

    This will be fitted to a Panzerholz plinth using an SP10 mk2 turntable, my Fidelity arm is 230mm pivot to spindle so this seemingly works/looks fine, I'm not averse to using 10" or 12" arms, I just want the best sound for the best price, so I'm looking at used prices.

    Hana ML cartridge in use just now.

    Spec:

    Stylus: Nude Microline
    Cantilever: Aluminium
    Magnet: Alnico
    Rec. Tracking Force: 2g
    Trackability: 70µ/2g
    Compliance: 10×10-6 cm/dyne
    Channel Separation: 30dB @ 1kHz
    Frequency Range: 12Hz to 45kHz
    Impedance: 8Ω (ML)
    Suggested Load Impedance: <100Ω (ML)
    Suggested Load Impedance: 47kΩ (MH)
    Cartridge Weight: 9.5g

    Any thoughts?

    I'll be posting this very same message on several Forums to gather opinions, be interesting to read the results.

    Thanks

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    I've got the same FR, its possibly on my list to move on as I feel I've got better arms (12"PU7,SME4) however, it's the only one with detachable headshell which does add quite a lot of flexibility.

    Its heavy effective mass, 20g may not suit the cart, however I've never heard a 103 sound as good as it does in the Fr. There may be compatibility issues??

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    I'd keep it unless you can find a 64S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiveDeepDog View Post
    I've got the same FR, its possibly on my list to move on as I feel I've got better arms (12"PU7,SME4) however, it's the only one with detachable headshell which does add quite a lot of flexibility.

    Its heavy effective mass, 20g may not suit the cart, however I've never heard a 103 sound as good as it does in the Fr. There may be compatibility issues??
    Swappable headshell is definitely a plus, however my cart swapping days are pretty much done as I like the Hana so much so the headshell isn't as important as it used to be.

    I had a 103r prior to the Hana which I really liked, I've had a Zu version of the 103 too, the Hana suits me better.

    Vinyl engine resonance calculator puts the Hana at just over 9 on the FR arm so it's a fair match I'd say?

    Phonomac ( Angus ) has fettled my FR arm so it's sounding better than it's ever did and I'm not 100% convinced it's the right decision to sell it yet.

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    I wouldn't sell it in any hurry if I were you, very nice arm and apparently a great match for the Voyd which I use, currently fitted with an SME V.

    I thought about seeking one out but I'm very happy with my V.
    Chris

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    imo a pmat-1010 mk6. once the lock down is over give angus a shout,im sure he will let you hear one.
    My System
    John Wood KT88 Amp.
    Paradise Phono Stage
    Sony TTS-8000 Turntable.
    PMAT-1010 MK6 Tonearm.
    Ortofon Cadenza Bronze
    Sony X555ES Cd Player
    Yamaha NS1000m Speakers

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    If you really want to sell it, look at these https://www.jelco-ichikawa.co.jp/cn3/tk-850m_mk2.html or https://www.jelco-ichikawa.co.jp/cn3/tk-850l_mk2.html , you might want to also read up on the TK-950 range but I was told that tonally not as good as the TK850's. I believe JELCO make many arms for other companies and have done for years.

    I had a tk-850m on a Voyd TT and it was excellent, in fact it replaced an SME IV which I traded on. I mounted mine on a http://www.purusaudio.pt/easyVTA.html which made it perfect fo quick and accurate set up when switching headshells, cartridges.

    Hugo at Ammonite sells them at a good price and offer advise.https://ammonite-audio.co.uk/product...logue/tonearm/
    Listening is the act of aural discrimination and dissemination of sound, and accepting you get it wrong sometimes.

    Analog Inputs: Pro-Ject Signature 10 TT & arm, Benz Micro LP-S, Michel Cusis MC, Goldring 2500 and Ortofon Rondo Blue cartridges, Hitachi FT5500 mk2 Tuner

    Digital:- Marantz SA-KI Pearl CD player, RaspberryPi/HifiBerry Digi+ Pro, Buffalo NAS Drive

    Amplification:- AudioValve Sunilda phono stage, Krell KSP-7B pre-amp, Krell KSA-80 power amp

    Output: Wilson Benesch Vector speakers, KLH Ultimate One Headphones

    Cables: Tellurium Q Ultra Black II RCA & Chord Epic 2 RCA, various speaker leads, & links


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    Quote Originally Posted by hifi_dave View Post
    I'd keep it unless you can find a 64S.
    +1

    Your budget won't get a significant improvement on the FR64FX. The FR64 series arms were true high end back in the 80s. The AT1010 is a very fine arm, but it would just be different, rather than better.
    R2R: Studer A820 1/2 inch 2 track; Otari MTR-12 1/4 inch 2 track; Sony APR 5003; Sony APR 5002; Studer A807/II. Vinyl: Platine Verdier Allaerts MC1B/Schroeder Reference & Model 2 Decca C4E/Hadcock 228 TRON Seven Reference phono. Keith Monks MkII RCM Other analogue source: Nakamichi Dragon with ANT4066 mods. Amplification: TRON Meteor preamp TRON Voyager 20B SET power. Speakers: Avantgarde Duo. Digital: computing at last with Prism Sound Lyra 2 A2D converter

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    an unmodified one maybe but these arms are taken to a very high level by angus.have you heard one to form your opinion?
    My System
    John Wood KT88 Amp.
    Paradise Phono Stage
    Sony TTS-8000 Turntable.
    PMAT-1010 MK6 Tonearm.
    Ortofon Cadenza Bronze
    Sony X555ES Cd Player
    Yamaha NS1000m Speakers

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    Join Date: Mar 2014

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    Many thanks for all the help and suggestions, I'm now busy reading up on them all and checking specs to see if compatible with the Hana.

    Keep me busy for a while

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