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Thread: Which one to upgrade: cart. or phono stage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mac72 View Post
    which model of Jelco it is ?
    Your cartridge should be good for another 300 hours before it starts exhibiting some level of distortion , why not try existing phonostage and cartridge on new turntable , spend some time setting it up and see what you don't like about
    I think its the Jelco SA 250

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    Jelco SA 250 has effective mass of 18g if I'm correct , your Quintet Black weights 9g and has compliance 15 x10-6 - you are going to be slightly below 8Hz resonance - not ideal but I'd try if works if doesn't look for cartridge with compliance not higher than 10x10-6 and leave phonostage upgrade for later

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    Quote Originally Posted by mac72 View Post
    Jelco SA 250 has effective mass of 18g if I'm correct , your Quintet Black weights 9g and has compliance 15 x10-6 - you are going to be slightly below 8Hz resonance - not ideal but I'd try if works if doesn't look for cartridge with compliance not higher than 10x10-6 and leave phonostage upgrade for later
    The one on its way is like this.

    https://www.classaaudio.com.au/produ...turntable.html

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    TR800 S is a modified Jelco tonearm but I have no idea about it's effective mass , if you have test record you could check yourself if not ask Transrotor

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    Nice turntable btw

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    If you decide to buy new cartridge I'd look at ZYX R50 Bloom , same compliance but much lighter body , should work fine with your tonearm . don't cost a fortune and sounds very good but bit different sound signature then your Ortofon

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    Quote Originally Posted by mac72 View Post
    Nice turntable btw
    Thanks Slav. I may put a budget for a phono stage around 1k (new or s/h). Im not a techie guy so diy is a no for me. I have a few in mind like: Tom Evans microgroove+ x/ Pathos in the groove/ Gold Note PH10/ Vertere phono1

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    Definitely S/H , I'd add Whest , Tron , Trilogy also Graham Slee - register on their forum and you could get home loan of Accession MC .
    1k is sort of bit too much and at the same time not enough , there is lots of good second hand phonostages in 1.5k mark , try if your Quintet works before you spend any money .

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    Quote Originally Posted by mac72 View Post
    at least you're funny
    I love how you are so disbelieving.

    I have been designing valve phono stages for the last 7 years so I know a bit about performance.
    My design incorporates unique design factors. Retail prices include a lot of marketing and manufacturing overheads.

    If you choose not to believe me it's your loss. I'm not exaggerating.

    Addendum.
    It will bear all this lot, Whest , Tron , Trilogy also Graham Slee

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    I just mention couple phonostages I own/owned - Paradise and Aurorasound Vida and straight away your 4k mark theory is a bit laughable - say no more .
    And yes you're exaggerating every time you "upgrade" something , no offence .

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