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    Quote Originally Posted by CageyH View Post
    Cadmium is still nasty stuff though.
    I appreciate this is Colin's trade thread, and wish him success with using opto couplers in a attenuator circuit.

    At the same time though it needs pointing out taking a cheap shot at LDR's " The best bit no nasty LDR' with the poison Cadmium "
    would have been best left out of his first post, as encapsulated audio purpose LDR's are excellent for audio purposes, and represent no
    public safety risk, which Colin very likely knows already.

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    Agreed there is no public safety risk, as many people will have an LDR in their TV, but I still stand by my comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CageyH View Post
    Agreed there is no public safety risk, as many people will have an LDR in their TV, but I still stand by my comment.
    Actually no TV's rarely have LDR's rather they use infra red communication , and points that an image of each type of LDR is needed to clarify.
    I won't invade Colin's thread, but will attend to this with a proper explanation of each, in a separate thread. On a side note even the European Commission
    was misled by Macron representing the wrong type, and the EU became aware of their error subsequently supported Silonex to give encapsulated types exemption.
    I covered this many years ago in a thread. But here is the wording from the European Commission

    "Dear Mr Daly,

    Thank you for your message.

    The Commission Directive 2012/51/EU has enabled the use of cadmium in photoresistors for analogue optocouplers as an exemption from the ROHS directive. Therefore, indeed, the use of cadmium in photoresistors for analogue optocouplers is currently allowed as there are no other substitutes. We draw your attention in this context to the recitals of the Directive:
    http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-conte...LEX:32012L0051

    This new delegated Directive is based on the Recast of the RoHS Directive which entered into force in January 2013. The information relating to the recast of this Directive with the comments submitted during the public consultation is available on the following website of the Directorate-General for the Environment:
    http://ec.europa.eu/environment/wast...e/index_en.htm

    If you wish to voice your opinion on waste management issues and changes to the EU legislation, we invite you to consult the public consultations webpage on DG Environment:
    http://ec.europa.eu/environment/consultations_en.htm

    We hope you find this information useful. Please contact us again if you have other questions.

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    And in a fire what happens to the plastic coating and the Cadmium Vapour ? Not for me, no thanks I have seen this shit stuff poison folk not good at all,It is still band in consumer products for me.

    I suspect this has changed as Crydom's SSR's failed the EMC and RFI regs but because they are a massive company paid to have the rules changed, money talks. The last I heard was Cd can only be used on MIL spec kit, but not for me sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Light Dependant Resistor View Post
    I appreciate this is Colin's trade thread, and wish him success with using opto couplers in a attenuator circuit.

    At the same time though it needs pointing out taking a cheap shot at LDR's " The best bit no nasty LDR' with the poison Cadmium "
    would have been best left out of his first post, as encapsulated audio purpose LDR's are excellent for audio purposes, and represent no
    public safety risk, which Colin very likely knows already.

    I am sorry that my comment and view upset you, but I will never use them in a product that can be tampered with burn smashed and ruin people health. Next we will use Uranium in Shells oh we do . so no thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin Wonfor View Post
    I am sorry that my comment and view upset you, but I will never use them in a product that can be tampered with burn smashed and ruin people health. Next we will use Uranium in Shells oh we do . so no thanks.
    You sadly have got off on the wrong foot creating, and I see from your comments above, continuing sadly fanciful misinformation, about products that you appear to know very little about.
    I suggest it might be better, to take your time, and learn to appreciate every product that has benefit for audio reproduction. They all have some unique applications, that
    can assist the reproduction of audio we enjoy.

    So change of shoe, please. Have you a working model of your circuit, have you connected it to a audio system ?

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    Be safe.
    Yes works fine on third attempt. I hate vero board.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadmium_poisoning

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    What attenuation range, are you achieving - resistance Min to maximum ? , and do you have good audio reproduction already, or are there refinements needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Light Dependant Resistor View Post
    Actually no TV's rarely have LDR's rather they use infra red communication , and points that an image of each type of LDR is needed to clarify.
    I won't invade Colin's thread, but will attend to this with a proper explanation of each, in a separate thread. On a side note even the European Commission
    was misled by Macron representing the wrong type, and the EU became aware of their error subsequently supported Silonex to give encapsulated types exemption.
    I covered this many years ago in a thread. But here is the wording from the European Commission

    "Dear Mr Daly,

    Thank you for your message.

    The Commission Directive 2012/51/EU has enabled the use of cadmium in photoresistors for analogue optocouplers as an exemption from the ROHS directive. Therefore, indeed, the use of cadmium in photoresistors for analogue optocouplers is currently allowed as there are no other substitutes. We draw your attention in this context to the recitals of the Directive:
    http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-conte...LEX:32012L0051

    This new delegated Directive is based on the Recast of the RoHS Directive which entered into force in January 2013. The information relating to the recast of this Directive with the comments submitted during the public consultation is available on the following website of the Directorate-General for the Environment:
    http://ec.europa.eu/environment/wast...e/index_en.htm

    If you wish to voice your opinion on waste management issues and changes to the EU legislation, we invite you to consult the public consultations webpage on DG Environment:
    http://ec.europa.eu/environment/consultations_en.htm

    We hope you find this information useful. Please contact us again if you have other questions.

    With kind regards,
    EUROPE DIRECT Contact Centre
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    A lot of TVs have an LDR for auto-calibration of the image brightness.

    Here is a document from 2013 on Cadmium.
    https://echa.europa.eu/documents/101...b-8cf544dd4c02

    My personal choice is to avoid cadmium containing devices where there is a practical alternative, but everybody is free to make their own choices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Light Dependant Resistor View Post
    What attenuation range, are you achieving - resistance Min to maximum ? , and do you have good audio reproduction already, or are there refinements needed.
    1R - 100MR refinement to come once I get proto type pcb the BW is also good over 10MHz but I think it could be better, and I may use it is mixer I am making.

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